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# in ar harts
www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEImD_r6D8o
(I helped save b3ta! Paul_P www.paul-powers.co.nr, Mon 11 Apr 2011, 13:50, archived)
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIzyifVNUTs
(Fingers of Fudge, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 1:00, archived)