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# HERE I AM AGAIN
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 21:28, archived)
#
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 21:36, archived)
# and again
Question:Why is it always popeing in your pictures?
Answer:A trademark or trade mark or trade-mark is a distinctive sign or indicator used by an individual, business organization, or other legal entity to identify that the products or services to consumers with which the trademark appears originate from a unique source, and to distinguish its products or services from those of other entities.

And my trademarks are: Obama, Pope, Poop, Chicken ... not exactly all time in this order. (Exception exist, for example the PITA Series, fresh and new and literally a pain in the ass).
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 21:42, archived)
# Dude, nobody cares.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 21:44, archived)
# eh?
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:22, archived)
# Where's the chicken then?
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:27, archived)
# Chicken
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:36, archived)
# That is also The Pope
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 23:00, archived)
#
1) Obama



2) Pope



3) Poop



4) and Chicken



... not always in the same order (except the rare exceptions).
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 21:46, archived)
# You are becoming incredibly tedious
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:00, archived)
# there is alway a way to become more tedious
but, butt, I promise I will put my efforts in future more towards other projects like Obama with Tits, yes, TITTTTTSSSSssss s s s s s
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:35, archived)
# Oh, that thread disappeared.
To continue the discussion I was having with Mu, who is wrong in every conceivable way: invisible means "not visible", usually with reference to the naked eye. You are correct that this is not the same as microscopic, which means "only visible through a microscope".

By definition, then, if something is microscopic, it is therefore also invisible.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 21:44, archived)
# So
if you view something under a microscope it becomes invisible?
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 21:46, archived)
# only if it is big enough
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 21:47, archived)
# Only if you close the wrong eye by mistake.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 21:48, archived)
# A microscopic cloak would have been no good to Harry Potter.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 21:47, archived)
# Not according to what Cho Chang says, if you get my meaning, eh? Eh? Eh?
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 21:48, archived)
# An 11" wand with a phoenix feather core.
Ribbed for her pleasure.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 21:50, archived)
# Oh Hedge
Invisible means not visible. Microscopic means hard to see without the right equipment. Not the same dude, not the same. If millions of microscopic things get together (like mould) you can see them. If millions of invisible things get together you still can't.
I'm taking this too seriously, aren't I?
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 21:50, archived)
# Microscopic
means impossible to see without the right equipment. Ergo: invisible.

I really don't understand what is so difficult to grasp about this.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 21:53, archived)
# Invisibility is not an intrinsic property of a substance, it is a description of whether or not it can be seen with the naked eye.
If you put lots of invisible things together, and they become visible, then they are no longer invisible.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 21:54, archived)
# Non.
Invisible means unable to be seen. Hence there is nothing in science that is invisible (that we know about, and if we did, it wouldn't be).
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:03, archived)
# I'm afraid your definitions are all whacked out of goose here.
Leaving aside your assertion that everything in science is visible (let me know what gravity looks like, I've never seen it - I've seen the effects of gravity, but not gravity itself), let me clarify what I mean.

"Invisible" means "not visible".

Most bacteria, for example, are microscopic.

They are also invisible.

If I look at them through a microscope, they become visible.

Without the microscope, they are invisible.

Without a microscope, anything which is microscopic is also - by definition - invisible.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:10, archived)
# We argue over terms
Scientifically, gravity is visible; it can be measured.

You also forget one other important fact; I talk bollocks a lot.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:13, archived)
# "Visibility" and "measurability" are totally different things.
Oh look, that gerbil has nearly chewed its way through a toilet roll tube.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:18, archived)
# :D
Gerbils!
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:20, archived)
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(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:21, archived)
# I think Hedge is right on this one Sundae.
Invisible does mean "not visible to the nekked eye". However it can be used elsewise i.e. The plane was invisible to Radar.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:10, archived)
# But the pilot could see it
Therefore, at no time was the plane actually invisible.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:15, archived)
# If the pilot closed his/her eyes, it would be invisible.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:24, archived)
# I disagree
"Invisible" on its own would mean literally un-seeable under any circumstances, like The Invisible Man (in the film, not the b3tan) or Frodo when he puts the ring on. If something is microscopic, or a stealth plane, it's only invisible with qualifiers. So you might say a microscopic object is invisible to the naked eye, but if you said you had a petri dish full of invisible bacteria, you'd get funny looks. Likewise the stealth plane is invisible to radar, it's not invisible full stop.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:35, archived)
# Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you Drunken Miss Ho Chi Minh.
A voice of reason in these troubled times.
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# The invisible
man would be easily seen on a thermo-camera. So as you say; not invisible at all.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:38, archived)
# Hang on a minute, your definition is bollocks.
This concept of things being un-seeable under any circumstances is a fantasy.

Citing online references is the death of any argument, but still: from thefreedictionary.com -

invisible (adj)
1. Impossible to see; not visible: Air is invisible.
2. Not accessible to view; hidden: mountain peaks invisible in the fog.
3. Not easily noticed or detected; inconspicuous: "The poor are politically invisible" (Michael Harrington).
4. Not published in financial statements: an invisible asset.

All of the examples given could become visible if you changed the scenario.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:49, archived)
# You yourself used the example of gravity
the effects of which are visible, but which itself is not. Magentism would be another example.
Posing the question, magnets, how do they work?
Fucking, shitty magnets.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:52, archived)
# My original point was that if something is "microscopic", it is by nature also "invisible".
I'm going to bed now, feel free to argue amongst yourselves.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:54, archived)
# What about your nekkid tiem?
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:59, archived)
# Night Hedge.
Air is pretty visable really. The sky is blue because of it.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:59, archived)
# Nooooooooo.
Invisible used alone means impossible to see under any circumstances.
If something is only visible under a microscope, it's possible to say that it's invisible to the naked eye, but it does require that qualifying phrase in order to differenciate it from something which is truly invisible.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:10, archived)
# Unfortunately,
this has gone from an interesting discussion about the nature of reality to a quibble about semantics. All we've learned here is that people think the word "invisible" means subtly different things - and each of us could come up with a dictionary definition which supports our point of view.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:13, archived)
# What about plums?
There was talk of plums.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:18, archived)
# There was plums. But we eated them.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:22, archived)
# I don't think it's appropriate to use the verb "eat" when referring to microscopic fruits.
"Ingested" is probably the correct verb here.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:34, archived)
# oh no! the internets is at it again!
DAMN YOU INTERNETS!
*shakes fist*
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:21, archived)
# Hahaha I think you mean,
"Unfortunately, I was completely wrong, and moreover, this whole thing was driven by my insane jealously of Mu's microscopic plums."
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:36, archived)
# Yes, I think that settles it.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:19, archived)
# UV radiation is invisible
but not for bees.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 21:51, archived)
# You should see how bees define "invisible" in their dictionary.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 21:54, archived)
# So the Pope is as small as an ant?
I'm a bit lost
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 21:56, archived)
# The pope is a shape-shifting reptilian from Planet X.
He can be as small as an ant if he wants to be.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 21:58, archived)
# Yes, this is true.
Literally all he has to do is say "I am as small as an ant" and bingo, Papal infallibility does the rest.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:03, archived)
# You can write 'invisible' in microscopic letters and make it become invisible...
even though it was already a statement of invisibility, but you might be able to find it.
If you make a microscope invisible, it becomes a Nobel-prize-winning microscope that you can't find.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 21:57, archived)
# Boffins once invented a microscopic microscope.
It created a black hole which sucked their laboratory into a singularity, and would have destroyed the world if quick-thinking military officials hadn't nuked it.

Will these scientists never learn?
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:00, archived)
# Ah, so they nuked it with a microscopic warhead rather than an invisible one.
Black holes are invisible. Well, the thing about a black hole - it's main distinguishing feature - is it's black. And the thing about space, the colour of space, your basic space colour - is black. So how are you supposed to see 'em?
except for the silly gravity thing
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:05, archived)
# Specsavers?
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:13, archived)
# That would be an awesome ad campaign
"I was standing on the edge of the event horizon, but I could see fuck all Hawking radiation...
...until I went to Specsavers."
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:18, archived)
# And this week is a second pair free.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:57, archived)
#
to be invisible is neither invincibly visible nor risibly divisible or insoluably infintesmal but viably involuable intermittantly transmittable unto the eye of I
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:40, archived)
# What she said. Eh?
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:55, archived)