cant say ive listened to Zwan
but i wasnt a fan of the pumpkins to begin with. Fact reamins though, St. Anger pisses on everything thats due to come out in the next three years.
( PMGT Orchestra Of Wolves, Sat 7 Jun 2003, 2:37, archived)

It cant
Be better than QOTSA "Songs For The Deaf"
( imtypingonakeyboard, Sat 7 Jun 2003, 2:38, archived)

non metallica fan
*raises eyebrow*
( lemony, Sat 7 Jun 2003, 2:39, archived)

its a fucking superlative piece of work.
the heaviest thing theyve done in years. its got more energy than anything ive heard in the last 5 years. Its just a big FUCK YOU to people that accused em of selling out and to people that said they couldnt do this kind of music anymore.
( PMGT Orchestra Of Wolves, Sat 7 Jun 2003, 2:44, archived)

yeah... i'm sure its heavy...
but still don't you think it starts to sound like a kinda parody of the stuff they were making... 15 (guess) years ago or so?
( lemony, Sat 7 Jun 2003, 2:45, archived)

nah i dont think it is.
its much more modern, but the aggression is still the same. They just seem so focussed now.
( PMGT Orchestra Of Wolves, Sat 7 Jun 2003, 2:54, archived)

i've never been a fan of agression
when it becomes agression for aggressions sake (dillinger escape plan anyone?) it starts to become almost manipulative in the way it plays with people who do actually feel those emotions very strongly
( lemony, Sat 7 Jun 2003, 2:57, archived)

Hmm, well
Lets see what non-die hard fans think, the true test...
( imtypingonakeyboard, Sat 7 Jun 2003, 2:46, archived)

sell-out?
they backed their record label in suing their fans that dared to try to share their songs online. despite the fact that they were charging $50 a head on their us tour to see them.

even though they are shit, have always been shit, and will always be shit.
( martian, Sat 7 Jun 2003, 2:51, archived)

woo
well said sir
( lemony, Sat 7 Jun 2003, 2:54, archived)