sorry

( mugatu, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 9:21, archived)

CHRIST

( Reckless_Rik, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 9:27, archived)

'ning!

( mugatu, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 9:30, archived)

`niiiing sir
today`s our day.... Liverpool for teh Carling Cup

"walk on..... walk on....."

/dead excited
( Reckless_Rik, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 9:34, archived)

haha nevermind huh!

( mugatu, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 9:43, archived)

:(
*cries*
( Reckless_Rik, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 9:44, archived)

SATAN

( Kaiser, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 9:30, archived)

I see your satan, and raise you one arc angel

( mugatu, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 9:32, archived)

I`ll raise you
one pi * angel²
( Reckless_Rik, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 9:35, archived)

( Kaiser, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 9:35, archived)

Pythagoras' napkin

( maiden mixing metaphors since 1624, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 9:38, archived)

hmmm! I wonder if it`s worth booting up Windows + Photoshop
... BEATTIE!
( Reckless_Rik, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 9:39, archived)

get some wine

( Kaiser, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 9:41, archived)

still too flakey I think - it used to work 90% OK with Photoshop Elements
might whack vmware on though :)
( Reckless_Rik, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 9:43, archived)

works fine here
woo!
( Kaiser, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 9:45, archived)

I wonder if I can nuke the PC totally and get Ubtuntu running, backups taken, etc. by 2pm....
oooh tempted

will have to nuke the hard disks though; spread those sexy /var /bin /home directories across the disks :)

plus if you watch badly ripped DVDs, the PC doesn`t lock up if it can`t read the damned thing, like with all the Windows players!
( Reckless_Rik, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 9:48, archived)

you just have to love linux (and hate it!)
i'm having my joy using slackware
( Kaiser, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 9:50, archived)

A fine idea
save for two problems
1. I have no wine.
2. It's Sunday and I must remain tea-total for my Driver Training School tommorrow.
( maiden mixing metaphors since 1624, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 9:44, archived)

hahahahaa
you want this:

wine.sourceforge.net
( Reckless_Rik, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 9:45, archived)

A windowless windows
how can this be so, Bill Gates must destroy it immediately *sets Robot Bill Gates on "KILL"*
( maiden mixing metaphors since 1624, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 9:47, archived)

you should download a live Linux like Mandrake and try it... all free and just as sexy
edit: i.e. you don`t have to install it on the hard disk
( Reckless_Rik, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 9:48, archived)

It's a pointless task we are all Bill Gates' bitches
whether we like it or not - eventually he will own all the souls
( maiden mixing metaphors since 1624, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 9:50, archived)

wake up!
sister!!
( Kaiser, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 9:52, archived)

Ah but I do dream of a world without the Gates
but I'm not convinced that Linux really works
( maiden mixing metaphors since 1624, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 9:56, archived)

erm
why not?
( Kaiser, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 9:57, archived)

I heard lots of negative feedback
and compatibility issues
( maiden mixing metaphors since 1624, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 10:01, archived)

compatibility issues??
it works perfectly fine but people are just too lazy to find out how good it really is! windows deserve negative feedback...it's a sewer into your pc
( Kaiser, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 10:05, archived)

I dunno
I don't know anything about the subject or the validity of such scurrilous rumour-mongering probably started by a Ginger Haired bespectacled gentleman who's name sound like Mill Rakes
( maiden mixing metaphors since 1624, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 10:07, archived)

hardware
but it`s as much the manufacturer`s fault too.. using cheap and nasty hardware and doing everything in software that nobody can decipher

- I`ll have to bin the WaveFinder (which I really like) and the web cam as there`s no support at all :(
( Reckless_Rik, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 10:08, archived)

it's nothing worse than windows!
i've had just as much trouble finding drivers for crappy hardware using windows as i have using linux

there might be help here if it's quick cam related:

qce-ga.sourceforge.net/

...
( Kaiser, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 10:13, archived)

it`s the one with the ov518 chipset .. looks like an upside down cheese triangle (only with a lens!)
do any of the Linux instant messengers support webcams?

never really use the cam to be honest (except for when I drop trou and show my member off to young children)

.. that`s a joke by the way, Mr. Police Officer
( Reckless_Rik, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 10:26, archived)

Hahaha
I'm telling ;)
( maiden mixing metaphors since 1624, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 10:28, archived)

at least I`ll get a nice fitting prison uniform and not navy blue Bermuda shorts :p

( Reckless_Rik, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 10:32, archived)

Gah!
Once I've passed my PCV test and been given my uniform I will take a photo for you - I will look a right dork for sure haha
( maiden mixing metaphors since 1624, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 10:37, archived)

COR!
excellent :D

hot top of sock action ;)

do you get nasty free shoes too?

*runs away*
( Reckless_Rik, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 10:39, archived)

Don't even mention the shoes :O

( maiden mixing metaphors since 1624, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 10:44, archived)

is it USB?
i dunno if there's a webcam IM client but it shouldn't surprise me
( Kaiser, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 10:35, archived)

aye USB.. just never came across anything that was compatible with the Windows people
not a big loss to be honest, cos I never use it

the WaveFinder though :(

bye bye DAB radio :(
( Reckless_Rik, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 10:36, archived)

aaawww
:((
( Kaiser, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 10:38, archived)

Any use?
www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=Linux+driver+for+wavefinder&spell=1
( maiden mixing metaphors since 1624, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 10:40, archived)

nah did a lot of searching a month or so ago
Psion never released any of the software, so nobody`s been able to take it apart and do it for Linux - the hardware just seems to receive the radio signal, and the software does all the decoding to turn it into sound; if the hardware had been a bit more.... er.. useful, it might have been a lot easier :(

they stopped making the bloody thing too, so you`d think they might have just released the code for free
( Reckless_Rik, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 10:45, archived)

if you compare it to a clean install of Windows, it`s no more complicated I think

the only thing I really don`t like about Linux, and never really have, is the file requester tools, for saving and loading files

but there`s a lot to be said for having a machine that`ll stay up for weeks/months without having to be rebooted

OH! OH! and if you screensaver lock the PC and go home, it doesn`t take the machine 20 minutes to "warm up" the next day while it tries to load everything (that`s already running) back into memory - no idea why Windows does this
( Reckless_Rik, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 10:00, archived)

I'm but a simple girl
and know only the simple things. I wouldn't want to start having to get used to a new OS. You & Kaiser are probably spot-on with what you say but CHANGE IS BAD - IT BRINGS BAD THINGS ;)
( maiden mixing metaphors since 1624, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 10:03, archived)

you're right!
all that free software must be complete shite
( Kaiser, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 10:08, archived)

hahaha I could open the firewall and let you VNC to one of the PCs here and have a play
but that would be silly! - but definitely have a go with one of the live versions and see what you think, remembering that it runs off the CD so it`ll be slow :)
( Reckless_Rik, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 10:09, archived)

Okay so where would I download this "live" version?
And it isn't going to bugger up my present setting is it?
( maiden mixing metaphors since 1624, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 10:12, archived)

that's the beauty of it!
it doesn't do anything to the machine at all
( Kaiser, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 10:15, archived)

nah they run straight off the CD
you could try SUSE personal: download.novell.com/sendfile?fileid=-1r3q7QIc8s~
(hopefully that address is OK) - it`s 1.2GB :\

this is one you`d have to pay for though; it`s very polished (!) - I think you can download it for free, but you pay for installer CDs/DVDs and to be honest online installation can be a pain

or Ubuntu wot I use:
releases.ubuntu.com/warty/warty-release-live-i386.iso
640MB ish

em.. Knoppix:
www.mirror.ac.uk/mirror/ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/knoppix/KNOPPIX_V3.7-2004-12-08-EN.iso
I`ve never used this, so I dunno what it`s like - people seem to like it
~700MB, so make sure you`ve a big enough cd :)

Slax:
ftp://ftp.linux.cz/pub/linux/linux-live.org/SLAX-4.2.x/slax-4.2.0.iso
~180MB - Kaiser`s choice - never used that one :) I did use the really old slackware (when it came on 40 floppies or something) and it was alright, but that was ohh nearly 10 years ago!
( Reckless_Rik, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 10:19, archived)

slackware 10.1 is sexy!!
:)

check out the different versions:

slax.linux-live.org/download.php

i would try this one:

ftp://ftp.linux.cz/pub/linux/linux-live.org/SLAX-4.2.x/slax-killbill.iso
...
( Kaiser, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 10:21, archived)

I'm torrenting the Slax one
as we speak

but if anything should go wrong in my new Windowless world *shakes fist*
( maiden mixing metaphors since 1624, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 10:25, archived)

you'll be safe!
read this page:

slax.linux-live.org/features.php

...
( Kaiser, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 10:27, archived)

ewww! command line ;)

*hides 40-odd terminal windows*
( Reckless_Rik, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 10:40, archived)

nah! all they do is run off the CD, detect whatever hardware they can, and should boot you up into a windowing environment like KDE or Gnome (they look a bit like Windows, but both are slightly different)
if you`re lucky, they`ll mount the hard disk partitions, so you can save and open your existing files
( Reckless_Rik, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 10:28, archived)

not a chance :)
nuh-huh-uhhhhh
( Reckless_Rik, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 9:54, archived)

knoppix or slax
could be very worhty alternatives
( Kaiser, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 9:52, archived)

I heard Knoppix was a bit too Windowsy, and downloaded 3 ISOs - but the first one was knackered, so I thought "sod that"
I quite like Ubuntu - the installation and upgrade is quite nice (uses synaptic), except that it`s all shitty brown by default :D

edit: it`s a customised Debian, in case you didn`t hear of it

www.ubuntulinux.org/
( Reckless_Rik, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 9:55, archived)

erm...you only need one
check out slax:
slax.linux-live.org/
...

edit: i've tried ubuntu and i don't like it
( Kaiser, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 9:57, archived)

hmmm I like Live CDs to play around, and maybe if the PC goes bananas and I need emergency data recovery
do you know if the proper installable version is any good with NVidia cards and TFT monitors? that`s been my biggest headache so far (and not too much hassle with Ubuntu thank god - piece of piss with SuSE, but it`s not that up to date, but great for the web server)
( Reckless_Rik, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 10:02, archived)

i'm happy using slackware
:)
( Kaiser, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 10:06, archived)

nah, get pissed!
you'll be way too nervous if you show up 100% sober
( Kaiser, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 9:46, archived)

A fine theory
but not practical I'm afraid to say
( maiden mixing metaphors since 1624, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 9:48, archived)

wuss!!
:)
( Kaiser, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 9:53, archived)

Pfft!
'fraid so ;)
( maiden mixing metaphors since 1624, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 9:57, archived)

100% of fact.
You'll also appear more friendly and outgoing.
( gronkpan MUSICIANS! www.zombiemoonrobots.com, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 9:59, archived)

I see your SATAN
and I raise you a CTHULHU
( SuperMatt The hammer is my penis, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 9:36, archived)

I don't see anything!

/stevie wonder
( mugatu, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 9:37, archived)

I'll see your CTHULHU
and rasie you the Shape of Evil

( maiden mixing metaphors since 1624, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 9:40, archived)

I fold.

( SuperMatt The hammer is my penis, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 9:41, archived)

aww what a cheery chap!

*feels tightening of throat*
( Reckless_Rik, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 9:44, archived)

i see your, erm, CTHULHU and raise you a

( Kaiser, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 9:44, archived)

Gah! that is but too evil
even for this board!!
( maiden mixing metaphors since 1624, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 9:45, archived)

ha!
Like it.
( chobb ,ø¤ºGREATº¤ø,¸¸,ø¤ºRAPISTº¤ø,¸¸,ø¤ºRECOMMENDEDº¤ø, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 9:40, archived)