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# oh definitely both :)
(I helped save b3ta! Reckless_Rik, Mon 7 Mar 2005, 10:37, archived)
# Bah! I wasted a question . . .
I really knew the answer . . .


(I helped save b3ta! Sir Aunty Grampa Dave the Hat - enjoying a post-meridian muncheon - Ta! Cannaoogim!?, Mon 7 Mar 2005, 10:45, archived)