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# I wouldn't mind if it was a "LOL, SCIENTOLOGY IS A BIT SILLY!"
But Scientology is actually a bit grim, and have killed people. It's not as funny as it should be :(

I can see this competition getting pulled thanks to lawyers to be honest
(, Wed 13 Feb 2008, 23:36, archived)
# Who are these people it has killed?
I don't deny the "bit grim" part, but I just read the Lisa MacPherson wikipedia page and as far as I can make out she probably did die of a blood clot that originated from the car crash.
(, Wed 13 Feb 2008, 23:38, archived)
# See here:
whyaretheydead.net/

Also

xenu.net for some more infos. :)
(, Wed 13 Feb 2008, 23:40, archived)
# Even if you
try and argue around some of the points that are raised about the organisation, you can't help but admit that it is very, very shady.

I wouldn't want to meet a scientologist up a dark alley late friday night. NO SIR! The mormons were bad enough...
(, Wed 13 Feb 2008, 23:41, archived)
# The one that followed me on to the London Underground was just ominous as heck D:
flickr.com/photos/cr3/2255422560/
(, Wed 13 Feb 2008, 23:46, archived)
# They didn't exactly take her to the nearest hospital as soon as they could.

(, Wed 13 Feb 2008, 23:45, archived)
# If the 'church' has brainwashed her to refuse treatment, there's not much a hospital can do.

(, Wed 13 Feb 2008, 23:48, archived)
# It doesn't seem too unlikely that she could have died in the exact same surprising way
in a hospital's psych ward.
(, Wed 13 Feb 2008, 23:50, archived)
# Is she's willing to accept them, hospitals can prescribe medicine.
And they're well aware of the risks on embolisms and can do things to prevent/treat them.
(, Wed 13 Feb 2008, 23:51, archived)
# I think even in a hospital you can have a blood clot loose inside you which goes undetected
for 20 days until it abruptly kills you. Particularly if you're being treated for brain-wrongs rather than car crash injuries.
(, Thu 14 Feb 2008, 0:01, archived)
# It's possible, but I'm pretty confident there are tests.
I also expect they'd do something towards prevention, i.e. not forcing her to lie down in bed for several weeks.
And of course they're far better placed to treat her if anything goes wrong.
(, Thu 14 Feb 2008, 0:03, archived)
# Evidently scientology should spend a larger part of its fabulous wealth employing resident medical staff.
There's got to be much better angles to attack scientology from than that, is all. Such as "it's stupid".
(, Thu 14 Feb 2008, 0:10, archived)
# I think telling their members to refuse medical treatment is quite a good angle to attack, actually.
Although it does obviously fall under the header of 'it's stupid'.
(, Thu 14 Feb 2008, 0:14, archived)
# I thought it was only psychiatric treatment they avoided.

(, Thu 14 Feb 2008, 0:18, archived)
# I'm not sure, but even that seems a bit dodgy.
Our cult knows more than the accumulated knowledge of decades of psychological research.
Fuck clinical trials, we know what's best.
(, Thu 14 Feb 2008, 0:19, archived)
# The thing about choosing to avoid psychiatrists, although a bit naive,
is a great deal more defensible than the thing about aliens dropping nuclear bombs in volcanoes, and machines that test your midichlorian levels, or whatever it is.
(, Thu 14 Feb 2008, 0:27, archived)
# Those beliefs in themselves don't hurt anyone.
Keeping someone away from proper treatment can.
(, Thu 14 Feb 2008, 0:29, archived)
# It might have been nice to give the doctors a chance.

(, Wed 13 Feb 2008, 23:56, archived)
# They did have a genuine medical doctor attending to her.
I don't think this particular case was shockingly neglectful (but now I'm reading about the others).
(, Thu 14 Feb 2008, 0:05, archived)
# No, there was a medical doctor who was prescribing to her but didn't see her.
That's not attending.
(, Thu 14 Feb 2008, 0:11, archived)
# Perhaps if it's made into a figure of fun,
it will make it harder for it to be taken seriously as a "religion"
(, Wed 13 Feb 2008, 23:40, archived)
# I doubt it
could be any harder to take it seriously as a religion.
(, Wed 13 Feb 2008, 23:42, archived)
# I'm not disputing that for a single second. :D
I just think we could have a lot more fun with scientology IN GENERAL, not limiting us to the scope of "Make them look good"
(, Wed 13 Feb 2008, 23:42, archived)
# Personally I'm happy to see some fairly lose interpretations of the challenge here.

(, Wed 13 Feb 2008, 23:43, archived)