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This is a normal post Not sure of the point you're trying to make here.
Seriously.
(, Wed 13 Sep 2017, 12:49, Reply)
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Brexit has already fucked our economy - Our currency is bollixed and our exports and manufacturing haven't risen to counter that.

Regardless of whether you think it's right/wrong/pink/grey/hard Brexit has thus far been a financial disaster.
(, Wed 13 Sep 2017, 13:08, Reply)
This is a normal post Isn't unemployment currently at a 42 year low?

(, Wed 13 Sep 2017, 13:33, Reply)
This is a normal post Nope, not at all.
The problem with the official rate is that it falls if an unemployed worker hasnít sought a job in the past four weeks or canít start one in the next fortnight. Once they stop seeking work, fewer people are classed as unemployed but no jobs have been created.

So you're right in that this government are the best so far at redefining what being unemployed means. I know people aren't keen on links to "left wing" sources, so I'm just using right wing ones or academia.

www.newstatesman.com/politics/economy/2016/03/hidden-truth-behind-george-osborne-s-record-jobs
www4.shu.ac.uk/research/cresr/news/real-level-unemployment-almost-35million-new-report
uk.businessinsider.com/unemployment-in-the-uk-is-now-so-low-its-in-danger-of-exposing-the-lie-used-to-create-the-numbers-2017-7
(, Wed 13 Sep 2017, 14:05, Reply)
This is a normal post As I said, I'm confused too
You said "Everyone and their dog was predicting the end of the world would happen immediately after voting for brexit"

But the closest you've come to backing that up is mentioning some Tory MPs and finance experts not liking Osborne's threatened extra austerity plans.

Naysayers have been very pessimistic about what will happen because of Brexit especially when it does actually happen. But I don't recall anyone saying the world would end immediately after the referendum, especially when they assumed it would only be giving the government food for thought.
(, Wed 13 Sep 2017, 13:29, Reply)
This is a normal post Ok here you go all wrapped up in one handy package
www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/brexit-treasury-jobs-recession_uk_5742d2dde4b00006e9aed9f1



And in repsonce to this Armageddon
www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/14/osborne-predicts-30bn-hole-in-public-finance-if-uk-votes-to-leave-eu
(, Wed 13 Sep 2017, 13:50, Reply)
This is a normal post I hate to defend Tories but the video clip shows Cameron talking about "after leaving europe"
not the day after the referendum.
(, Wed 13 Sep 2017, 14:01, Reply)
This is a normal post Well i've tried.
Even copied and pasted a nice graphic with the heading "Immediate impact of a vote to leave the EU on the UK"

Add to that the chancellor was threatening the whole county with a punishment budget to counter it. Not one in 2 years time after all the negotiations etc.

But hey, not here to convert you.
(, Wed 13 Sep 2017, 14:09, Reply)
This is a normal post even if that was about the day after the referendum
and not after leaving Europe as the people talking actually say with their own voices.
That's still just a Tory scare pamphlet, not "Everyone and their dog"
That's all I'm trying to helpfully correct you on, most remoaners are concerned for the results of actually leaving Europe. It was only the Tories scared about losing their jobs that were shitting themselves and predicting armageddon on the 24th June 2016
(, Wed 13 Sep 2017, 14:17, Reply)
This is a normal post It was certainly about the day after. Point clearly made at the time.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/hm-treasury-analysis-the-immediate-economic-impact-of-leaving-the-eu

Whilst I agree it was a scare pamphlet it wasn't just the tories.

Created by the treasury, backed up by the Bank of England and IMF and quoted by every bloody financial expert the media could dig up.

Not watched the video of dumb and dumber so no idea what they're saying.
Just providing you with what was given out to us at the time.
(, Wed 13 Sep 2017, 14:42, Reply)
This is a normal post so we are at least in agreement that it was the government and people in power
and not the general public "remoaners" (everybody and their dog)
(, Wed 13 Sep 2017, 14:45, Reply)
This is a normal post Ah so that's the bloody context for all this?
Yes, I was talking about government, financial experts, media commentators ext.

Not the general public, they were the target of all this to get them to vote they way business and government wanted them to.

Nearly worked too, but they just jumped the shark and went too far.
(, Wed 13 Sep 2017, 14:49, Reply)
This is a normal post But this is exactly coming true?
We've already seen our average real wages fall by about 3% .

Exchange rate has already dropped 13%.

House prices? Dunno, I live in London, they'll never fall here.

What did you expect rioting and every city centre being set on fire? So far all of this is coming true, not being proved false.

We seem to have a choice between "hard" brexit vs paying a huge divorce bill so that 30+b figure is looking far too conservative too.
(, Wed 13 Sep 2017, 14:15, Reply)
This is a normal post You don't think some of that could be from that little global financial crisis?
Just a bit?

And if a bunch for market spivs hadn't bet the wrong way about the result maybe the fall would't have been so hard.

Still a lower pound should be good for home grown exports.

House prices still going up, don't worry.
Mines gone up 68% in 5 years, bet a whole load of people would like to see them fall actually. Must be fucking hard being a first time buyer now.
(, Wed 13 Sep 2017, 14:57, Reply)
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When other countries in the EU have gone up in the same period, no it's quite evidently NOT from the global financial crisis :)

Exports haven't gone up - We'd have to produce something that other people wanted to buy.
(, Wed 13 Sep 2017, 15:05, Reply)