1. Economic prosperity, specifically not sacrificing economic growth in the short to medium term for a very unlikely possible gain in the long-term
2. A better deal than the WTO default with the worlds biggest free trade zone
3. Protection for our borders (yep, that's a thing)
4. Having input into military policy and general policy for Europe
5. The ability to work in 20+ odd countries without hassle
6. Preferential travel within Europe
7. International Relevance
8. Farming subsidies
9. No problems for expats legally residing in Europe.
10. No problems with Northern Ireland (well past the usual ones)
11. The rich assholes with the vested interest in getting out of europe, before they crack down on tax havens, would be fucked (Farage, Duncan-Smith, Lawson the usual assholes).
12. It wouldn't matter so much that our cabinet (and shadow cabinet) are populated with the most dangerous incompetents since the 3 day week.
Your politicians were always within stones throw, it's people with your attitude that elected Farage, instead of someone that had their best interests at heart and would represent them with gravitas, within the EU parliament. Also if you throw a stone within the EU, which the UK is currently part of, you hit a bit of the EU.
Europe is pretty small and there is currently free movement for its citizens, so you could just go and talk to other politicians in other countries but I understand that's way beyond your tiny little mindset.
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DinivanX Has stinging piss after drinking Pact Coffee, Wed 6 Dec 2017, 15:11,
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Hey I can see you had your reasons and unlike Benny are able to articulate them
I'ld love to debate them but got jobs on.
But Farming subsidies seriously?
Yes I could fly to wherever the EU has it's head office at the moment going back and forth from Brussels to Strasbourg at the cost of €103 million.
Then find out my MEP doesn't hold surgeries so fly back, write a letter.
Wait to see if one of my actually 7 MEPS that claim to represent me will give me the honour of listening to me.
Fly back to wherever the EU is currently squatting. Have some twat in a suit nod politely whilst I talk.
And then fly back home having developed a carbon footprint the equivalent of 5 double decker buses and achieved nothing.
OR
I can walk 15 minutes and speak with my MP at his surgery (Except on Wednesday afternoons) with knowledge he'll be in trouble if some nutjob starts a local campaign.
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Wed 6 Dec 2017, 15:43,
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To be honest I just kind of lobbed in farming subsidies as there appear to be a few farmers who are suddenly realising their overproduction is no longer going to be rewarded :)
You're lucky to have an MP who actually does their surgeries, it's hit and miss depending on the MP.
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DinivanX Has stinging piss after drinking Pact Coffee, Wed 6 Dec 2017, 15:56,
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Never had a need so great I parly with a tory.
But if I did then its good to know I can.
Plus we have a healthy collection of grass roots activists that seem to be on top of things.
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Wed 6 Dec 2017, 19:59,
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oh god. I agree with dvan
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The Ann Coulter Fan Club Babylon is burning at, Wed 6 Dec 2017, 19:58,
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