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This is a link post 'Broken men filled with shrapnel and guilt'
I know this will annoy some who are totally over trump-related posts but this speech from Arnie is even better than previous movie speeches such as this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrRgT6nLKPo
worth noting that Arnie's own dad fought in the Wehrmacht and was an SA member before the anschluss.
(I helped save b3ta! The Ann Coulter Fan Club Babylon is burning at, Fri 18 Aug 2017, 17:48, , Reply)
This is a normal post I was surprised by that. It was good but...
The opening line irked me. He says there are not two sides to bigotry or hatred. I think there are plenty of different sides to hatred. The motives behind Barcelona, or whichever European city, take your pick, are somewhat different to those behind Charlottesville.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Fri 18 Aug 2017, 18:02, , Reply)
This is a normal post I think point is
that *opposing* bigotry and hatred - whether Nazi or Jihadist - is not just a 'different side' as Trump tried to claim.
Bigots and haters be bigots and haters whether they have bushy beards or stupid faschi haircuts. I'd include extreme animal rights in the haters so let's add in stupid whiteboy dreads to the haircuts of hatred mix.*
*also I fucking hate stupid whiteboy dreads.
 (I helped save b3ta! The Ann Coulter Fan Club Babylon is burning at, Fri 18 Aug 2017, 18:08, , Reply)
This is a normal post Whiteboy dreads are cultural appropriation?

(I helped save b3ta! FeralCatMan Unusual disease collector., Fri 18 Aug 2017, 18:15, , Reply)
This is a normal post Black men who see my peen always accuse me of cultural appropriation

(I helped save b3ta! BrokenCoccyx doesn't mind if you grope on, Fri 18 Aug 2017, 18:17, , Reply)
This is a normal post congratualtions on the most inappropriate response possible.
I kinda feel I'm hostage to fortune now.
 (I helped save b3ta! The Ann Coulter Fan Club Babylon is burning at, Fri 18 Aug 2017, 18:19, , Reply)
This is a normal post Missfortune is in Wales`
How is it inappropriate? Wasn't cultural appropriation being discussed?

I'm sorry, Mr. Vienna Sausage.
 (I helped save b3ta! BrokenCoccyx doesn't mind if you grope on, Fri 18 Aug 2017, 18:22, , Reply)
This is a normal post That's what I was hoping for. {:->

(I helped save b3ta! FeralCatMan Unusual disease collector., Fri 18 Aug 2017, 19:53, , Reply)
This is a normal post You have syphilis?

(I helped save b3ta! BaronMunchausen Interdimensional Demon Day Laborer, Fri 18 Aug 2017, 18:25, , Reply)
This is a normal post
b3ta.com/links/1454001
 (I helped save b3ta! BrokenCoccyx doesn't mind if you grope on, Fri 18 Aug 2017, 18:28, , Reply)
This is a normal post Probably
But they are right up there with bow ties and hipster beards in my pantheon of dislike.
 (I helped save b3ta! The Ann Coulter Fan Club Babylon is burning at, Fri 18 Aug 2017, 18:17, , Reply)
This is a normal post I had ginger dreads in uni
but that was 100% because it meant I could get away with not bothering with stuff like washing or combing my hair.

Used to still bathe though, to an hour-long tape of Rasputin on endless loop. I'm no longer in touch with any of my flatmates.
 (I helped save b3ta! gingerfreak Why? Why not., Fri 18 Aug 2017, 21:42, , Reply)
This is a normal post If this is remotely true
I'm doxing you to coxxy and his milita
 (I helped save b3ta! The Ann Coulter Fan Club Babylon is burning at, Fri 18 Aug 2017, 22:07, , Reply)
This is a normal post This is my favourite thing I've read today.

(I helped save b3ta! Pig Bodine., Sat 19 Aug 2017, 10:48, , Reply)
This is a normal post No, they aren't.
Dreads appeared in many cultures including ancient egyptians, celtic & germanic tribes and vikings. They aren't the preserve of any culture, neither is tattooing which is also often hijacked in the old cultural appropriation twaddle.
 (I helped save b3ta! Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Fri 18 Aug 2017, 22:30, , Reply)
This is a normal post Making excuses for Vikings
That's classic Drac.
Edit: I also hate tats. It's not culture, it's wearing the same fading t-shirt for the rest of your life.
 (I helped save b3ta! The Ann Coulter Fan Club Babylon is burning at, Fri 18 Aug 2017, 22:43, , Reply)
This is a normal post I am absolutely a viking apologist.
After Charlemagne spread that jebus nonsense at the point of a sword, I think the vikings were right to seek reparations from the evil monks in their abbeys where they bummed little boys.

Some tats are pretty cool, especially the ones that mean something. I had a half maori housemate that had a tattoo that told the story of her mum's tribe, it was definitely culture :)
 (I helped save b3ta! Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Sat 19 Aug 2017, 20:40, , Reply)
This is a normal post Pffft!

(I helped save b3ta! FeralCatMan Unusual disease collector., Sat 19 Aug 2017, 1:51, , Reply)
This is a normal post I'm sure you're right.
I should probably shut up, lest some moron accuses me of defending the Trumpcunt. I just think there is hate everywhere and Arnie has rather oversimplified it. Foutrteen policemen were shot, five died, last year at a BLM demo. The shooter made his motives very clear on social media beforehand. Some small time Republicans were shot while playing baseball by a 'left wing activist' more recently. It's not just these Nazi flag wavers that are the problem. The problem is legion.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Fri 18 Aug 2017, 18:44, , Reply)
This is a normal post The police seem to be shooting rather more blacks
even unarmed ones. even lying on the ground trying to surrender ones. 135 blacks have been killed by police in the uS this year, while 253 whites have been killed. Blacks make up 13 per cent of the population.
Possible reasons for this outcome@ blacks are always shooting police - nope. Only 80 police have died in line of duty this years.
Police are racist?
edit: but this is simple - his speech was in response to Trump. Nazis are bad m'kay?
edit edit: of the 80 dead cops 28 died by gunfire. 'Officer down' (my source) includes K9 Chris K9 Dingo K9 Kyro, K8 Rico and K9 Rooster in the total.
 (I helped save b3ta! The Ann Coulter Fan Club Babylon is burning at, Fri 18 Aug 2017, 18:57, , Reply)
This is a normal post I've done this US cops being trigger happy on here before.
IMHO it simply boils down to this: whatever your skin colour, if you resist arrest or are obstructive or uncooperative or frankly just a bit rude to the police in the USA, there is a very real possibility of death. End of.
Also Diana died because she wasn't wearing a seatbelt. There were other contributing factors, but ultimately if she'd had the common sense to wear a fucking seat belt she'd not have died. End of.
Wish You Were Here is better than Darkside. End of.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Fri 18 Aug 2017, 19:11, , Reply)
This is a normal post You're dead right about
Diana and Wish you were here.
 (I helped save b3ta! The Ann Coulter Fan Club Babylon is burning at, Fri 18 Aug 2017, 19:13, , Reply)
This is a normal post So in the "land of the free",
it is accepted that being a bit rude carries a risk of summary execution.
 (I helped save b3ta! FeralCatMan Unusual disease collector., Fri 18 Aug 2017, 20:37, , Reply)
This is a normal post People tend to be more polite that way.

(I helped save b3ta! BrokenCoccyx doesn't mind if you grope on, Fri 18 Aug 2017, 21:06, , Reply)
This is a normal post An armed society is a polite society
would work better if indeed America was polite.
 (I helped save b3ta! The Ann Coulter Fan Club Babylon is burning at, Fri 18 Aug 2017, 21:44, , Reply)
This is a normal post Many of us prefer not to be hit, beaten, robbed, spat upon, etc.
If you never know who's packin', you tend to be a bit more cautious when you decide to be an ass. People die from a single punch, and I've got a family to support.
 (I helped save b3ta! BrokenCoccyx doesn't mind if you grope on, Fri 18 Aug 2017, 21:55, , Reply)
This is a normal post I don't think being armed is going to protect from a single punch.
Or from people being rude.
Especially if you are carrying a concealed weapon.
Carrying an automatic weapon across your chest will cause social interaction problems at a profound level.
Is that really your defence of the second amendment 'if I'm rude, I may be shot'?
I can think of many better ones. None that really work, obs, but it's your country not mine.
 (I helped save b3ta! The Ann Coulter Fan Club Babylon is burning at, Fri 18 Aug 2017, 22:05, , Reply)
This is a normal post My housemate and close friend's best friend in the early '90s was killed by a single punch...
Manchester clubland, safe as...
 (I helped save b3ta! Happosai _,,,,_(O ; o)_,,,, Fri 18 Aug 2017, 22:35, , Reply)
This is a normal post I don't trust random people not to shoot me by accident or otherwise.

(I helped save b3ta! FeralCatMan Unusual disease collector., Sat 19 Aug 2017, 1:20, , Reply)
This is a normal post Fuck o... erm, I would like to disagree, sir, if that's ok?
IN YOUR FACE ROZZER! *deads*
 (I helped save b3ta! gingerfreak Why? Why not., Fri 18 Aug 2017, 21:47, , Reply)
This is a normal post Ah, so it's lost, poor or incorrect education.
You might be right. West Heath was a dump.
 (I helped save b3ta! gingerfreak Why? Why not., Fri 18 Aug 2017, 21:53, , Reply)
This is a normal post \o/
That's the most I've ever heard him speak.
 (I helped save b3ta! Tab Hunter Make this useless process end and so, begin again, Fri 18 Aug 2017, 18:07, , Reply)
This is a normal post Not all that impressive given all the cuts that there were in that.

(I helped save b3ta! jonbob loves you, Fri 18 Aug 2017, 19:06, , Reply)
This is a normal post More a comment on my attention span when it comes to Arnie, princess.

(I helped save b3ta! Tab Hunter Make this useless process end and so, begin again, Fri 18 Aug 2017, 22:33, , Reply)
This is a normal post Let's not fight, duchess.

(I helped save b3ta! jonbob loves you, Sat 19 Aug 2017, 2:32, , Reply)
This is a normal post I'LL FLAMIN' WELL KILL YOU! YOU BITCH!!!
*slaps*
 (I helped save b3ta! Tab Hunter Make this useless process end and so, begin again, Sat 19 Aug 2017, 8:26, , Reply)
This is a normal post
*turns other cheek*
 (I helped save b3ta! jonbob loves you, Sat 19 Aug 2017, 17:28, , Reply)
This is a normal post No, this is great stuff.
It's important that those with lived experience of this shit make their voices heard, and I thought this was an eloquent and strong message to send.
 (I helped save b3ta! barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!, Fri 18 Aug 2017, 18:08, , Reply)
This is a normal post Yes
I wasn't expecting it. It was very good.
 (I helped save b3ta! gingerfreak Why? Why not., Fri 18 Aug 2017, 22:00, , Reply)
This is a normal post
Oh, ffs, shut the fuck up. You're embarrassing yourself.
 (I helped save b3ta! Flash_Bastard, Sat 19 Aug 2017, 10:29, , Reply)
This is a normal post This is a man who is in favour of the death penalty. Men died on 'his watch'.
"... all human beings have equal value..."

Just sayin' like.
 (I helped save b3ta! Flash_Bastard, Fri 18 Aug 2017, 18:15, , Reply)
This is a normal post Despite disagreeing with the death penalty
I don't see any moral or philosophical contradiction in being anti-nazi and pro-death penalty.
 (I helped save b3ta! The Ann Coulter Fan Club Babylon is burning at, Fri 18 Aug 2017, 18:21, , Reply)
This is a normal post
Then I assume you will never utter the words "... all human beings have equal value..."
 (I helped save b3ta! Flash_Bastard, Fri 18 Aug 2017, 18:23, , Reply)
This is a normal post It still is not a contradiction
Holding an individual accountable for their actions is not the same as condemning them for their colour or religion. To take your argumement reductio ad absurdum if all humans are of equal value none should be punished for their actions. You are conflating individual human value with humans with free will accountable for actions. And wrongly so.
Next!
 (I helped save b3ta! The Ann Coulter Fan Club Babylon is burning at, Fri 18 Aug 2017, 18:32, , Reply)
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(I helped save b3ta! BrokenCoccyx doesn't mind if you grope on, Fri 18 Aug 2017, 18:34, , Reply)
This is a normal post Tell me, were you ever sent out of class
for sticking pencils in your nostrils and barking like a seal?
 (I helped save b3ta! The Ann Coulter Fan Club Babylon is burning at, Fri 18 Aug 2017, 18:37, , Reply)
This is a normal post Listen, I don't want to be part of your twisted fantasies.
And no, I will not dress up like a seal.
 (I helped save b3ta! BrokenCoccyx doesn't mind if you grope on, Fri 18 Aug 2017, 18:39, , Reply)
This is a normal post Still one of my favourite gifs of all time.
But who would have thought that he'd no longer be the shittest President? I thought it might have taken 80, maybe 100 years? Truly we live in an age of wonder.
 (I helped save b3ta! gingerfreak Why? Why not., Fri 18 Aug 2017, 22:01, , Reply)
This is a normal post Eeeep.
I got worryingly close to agreeing with you there, but your use of the reductio ad absurdum doesn't quite work, so that saved me.

You were right up to that point, though.
 (I helped save b3ta! Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Fri 18 Aug 2017, 21:09, , Reply)
This is a normal post It is entirely correct
Did I really need to say something like 'all humans are equal so no one should have to pay parking fines'.
Next!
edit: It is wrong to deny the moral force of an argument because you dispute the use of rhetorical description. Socrates would fucking eat you.
 (I helped save b3ta! The Ann Coulter Fan Club Babylon is burning at, Fri 18 Aug 2017, 21:15, , Reply)
This is a normal post I didn't deny the moral force of the argument, you utter tit.
I was explicit that I agreed with you; the only minor quibble that your reductio doesn't quite work. Because it doesn't.
 (I helped save b3ta! Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Fri 18 Aug 2017, 22:19, , Reply)
This is a normal post Not my argument ... It was Arnie that said it. I personally don't believe that everyone is equal and I would be more than happy to throw the switch on certain individuals. I'm no moralist.

(I helped save b3ta! Flash_Bastard, Fri 18 Aug 2017, 21:20, , Reply)
This is a normal post searches giphy for 'backpedal'
loses will to live.
 (I helped save b3ta! The Ann Coulter Fan Club Babylon is burning at, Fri 18 Aug 2017, 21:25, , Reply)
This is a normal post
Absolutely no back-pedalling from me. I was merely commenting that your contention that the speech was 'good' was basically a load of shite, if in fact you meant it, and pointed part of that out. I certainly could not give a fuck what a bad actor, and a misogynist who could trump Trump, has to say about, well ... about anything I s'pose. Or, indeed, any of the Libtards on B3ta.
 (I helped save b3ta! Flash_Bastard, Sat 19 Aug 2017, 10:27, , Reply)
This is a normal post I don't have access to youtube: why were the broken men willed with shrapnel and quilt?

(I helped save b3ta! BrokenCoccyx doesn't mind if you grope on, Fri 18 Aug 2017, 18:16, , Reply)
This is a normal post If you're not kidding
because they were on the losing side of ww2.
 (I helped save b3ta! The Ann Coulter Fan Club Babylon is burning at, Fri 18 Aug 2017, 18:19, , Reply)
This is a normal post Oh, Guilt, not Quilt

(I helped save b3ta! BrokenCoccyx doesn't mind if you grope on, Fri 18 Aug 2017, 18:23, , Reply)
This is a normal post If you'd like to paddle back off to the shallow end for a while
the grown ups will play with you later.
 (I helped save b3ta! The Ann Coulter Fan Club Babylon is burning at, Fri 18 Aug 2017, 18:34, , Reply)
This is a normal post Please, don't put your tongue in Mr. Poopie tonight!

(I helped save b3ta! BrokenCoccyx doesn't mind if you grope on, Fri 18 Aug 2017, 18:35, , Reply)
This is a normal post http://www.b3ta.com/links/1454014

(I helped save b3ta! The Ann Coulter Fan Club Babylon is burning at, Fri 18 Aug 2017, 18:37, , Reply)
This is a normal post Arnold Schwarzenegger has the moral and intellectual high ground over the leader of the Western World.
Reality is a fever dream.
 (Jimbotfu Bummed in the gob again, Fri 18 Aug 2017, 20:28, , Reply)
This is a normal post This is what I thought.
Imagine that sentence being said in earnest, say, 25 years ago.
 (I helped save b3ta! Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Fri 18 Aug 2017, 21:10, , Reply)
This is a normal post I'm imagining the leader of the western world is played by Danny Devito
And Arnie wears glasses
 (benito vaselini no not that one, Fri 18 Aug 2017, 21:24, , Reply)
This is a normal post That added the square root of fuck all.

(I helped save b3ta! The Ann Coulter Fan Club Babylon is burning at, Fri 18 Aug 2017, 21:26, , Reply)
This is a normal post Yeah ok....
This from the Austrian who has worn a Nazi Totenkopf belt buckle and Ring for years.
 (Gratch Sit Ubu sit, Fri 18 Aug 2017, 20:33, , Reply)
This is a normal post pics or it didn't happen
Also, I pointed out his dad *was* a nazi who joined the party, and indeed the SA pre-Anschluss. If you seriously think Arnie is a Nazi, you better prove it.
Edit: I've checked this. He has wor a belt buckle with a skull, but it isn't a SS skull.
 (I helped save b3ta! The Ann Coulter Fan Club Babylon is burning at, Fri 18 Aug 2017, 20:55, , Reply)
This is a normal post I don't think is beyond the boundaries of possibility that in a few years
similar political material will be being delivered by legendary animation characters.

Edit: missing an 'it'
 (roysin, Sat 19 Aug 2017, 10:07, , Reply)
This is a normal post You would think they could film him doing more than a single sentence in one cut
You know, given he is a professional actor and such. Historians will look back and assume over editing was a style in this era.
 (I helped save b3ta! gaijintendo Regular Member, Sat 19 Aug 2017, 19:57, , Reply)