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This is a link post Instead Of Brexit I made this!
The other day I read about the £66 billion they now think we will have to pay to the EU to leave, and I wondered what else you might be able to do with that kind of $$$ so I tried dividing it by the 22k starting salary of a nurse.

You get nearly 3 million. 3 million nurse-years, or if you prefer 2,982 nurses for 100 years.

Equaling this insanity - it is about 13 billion pints of beer. Or enough to buy every working person a burrito for lunch every day for a year.

Anyway, I decided to make a website to show just what a lot of other more interesting, generous or fun stuff you can do with £66 billion instead of Brexit.

Please share the insanity that is now somehow reality, and if you have any other ideas for the £66 billion, let me know and I'll add them.


 (iambob BYE, Sun 23 Jul 2017, 17:25, , Reply)
This is a normal post nice
and retweeted
 (I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Sun 23 Jul 2017, 17:38, , Reply)
This is a normal post Great.
Somewhat ruined by inconvenient facts like that the average nurse is paid well over 22k. Some nurses are paid up to 40k according to today's Sunday Times. As for the 1% pay rise cap, that overlooks the fact that every year a nurse can rise up the pay scale, and typically can expect a pay rise of 4% per annum. Some can achieve as much as 7% in a year. I'd rather have more doctors anyway.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sun 23 Jul 2017, 17:42, , Reply)
This is a normal post
All the math is on there to check. it's based on the starting salary of a nurse. Even if it was the average salary I think it's still going to a 2 million nurse-hours!
 (iambob BYE, Sun 23 Jul 2017, 17:59, , Reply)
This is a normal post Fair enough, but it's still misleading.
In the same way the £350 million Brexit bus claim wasn't untrue, but it was a gross figure, not a net figure. So not actually a lie, but not really the truth either. Much like your claim. Anyway, we'd benefit much more from more doctors. But this country has long sentimentalised the role of nurses since Florence Nightingale. Or Mary Seacole, if you prefer.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sun 23 Jul 2017, 18:36, , Reply)
This is a normal post or better yet
people paid to slap cigarettes and booze out of people's hands.
 (I helped save b3ta! The Ann Coulter Fan Club Babylon is burning at, Sun 23 Jul 2017, 19:25, , Reply)
This is a normal post You need to add
the other costs for employment (overheads, training, etc.). Page 188 of this document: www.pssru.ac.uk/project-pages/unit-costs/2016/index.php helpfully adds those up for you. It suggests that a Band 6 (which would probably reflect an average grade) hospital-based nurse would cost the NHS around £50,000 per year. If they're based in London, it will be around 50% more.
 (I helped save b3ta! Norbert Lightowler, Tue 25 Jul 2017, 9:20, , Reply)
This is a normal post I'd rather have more Doctor Shipmans
How many would we need to wipe out all the ancient racists who voted for this pointless shite?
 (benito vaselini no not that one, Sun 23 Jul 2017, 19:13, , Reply)
This is a normal post Benny.
Let's just abandon universal suffrage when you don't get the results you want. You're the kind of cunt that champions diversity, as long as it's not diversity of opinion. Legislate for thought crimes now! You're basically a fascist.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sun 23 Jul 2017, 19:19, , Reply)
This is a normal post life expectancy is plateauing now anyway
The country just needs a couple of cold winters and a fuel crisis and we can put this whole ridiculous episode behind us
 (benito vaselini no not that one, Sun 23 Jul 2017, 19:34, , Reply)
This is a normal post Euthanasia for old people that don't vote your way now!
After all, they've only paid tax all their lives, and they pay taxes on their estate beyond the grave, so fuck them, it's not like they've had a lifetime of listening to politicians fantasising.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sun 23 Jul 2017, 20:42, , Reply)
This is a normal post Go easy on Benny
I guess he's just a millennial that's known no other life than one under the rule of the eu. He's probably been totally indoctrinated at school.

Look Benny, it's like this. A lot of people remember what it was like before.
They were promised time and again that it was just about trade and not creating a united states of europe.
Turns out they were lied to and it's exactly that.

Then some silly fucker gave us a chance to get out before we are completely assimilated. We took it.

Now I don't know about you but i'm looking forward to the chance to create something different. It might be better or it might be worse depending on your priorities. The key thing being that it's our choice now.
 (I helped save b3ta! Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Mon 24 Jul 2017, 14:17, , Reply)
This is a normal post That's a shit wage.

(I helped save b3ta! DinivanX Has stinging piss after drinking Pact Coffee, Mon 24 Jul 2017, 1:46, , Reply)
This is a normal post I'm prepared to bet money
that you have never worked for the public sector.
 (_(_(_(_(_(_(_(_(_ =o.o=, Tue 25 Jul 2017, 0:03, , Reply)
This is a normal post The 66billion should be paid from the Overseas Aid Budget
So instead of giving it to corrupt African dictators, it's given to corrupt European dictators.
 (I helped save b3ta! CanonCaliber A big bore, Sun 23 Jul 2017, 18:07, , Reply)
This is a normal post Sounds like a lot doesn't it?
But it's about five years worth of payments to the EU (after our rebate) and would almost certainly be payable in installments.

Also bear in mind that after this we have to pay them nothing, so in the long term we really do benefit.
 (I helped save b3ta! evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Sun 23 Jul 2017, 18:12, , Reply)
This is a normal post after we've replaced all the EU public bodies and their functions with our own versions (at huge expense)
And after we've replaced trading links built up over 40 years with something else unspecified

In the LOOOONG term, we might get out blue passports back. But probably not
 (benito vaselini no not that one, Sun 23 Jul 2017, 19:29, , Reply)
This is a normal post Benny.
They don't need wholesale replacement. Or much replacement at all.
And *breaking news* we traded with Europe before the existence of the EU. Also, you obviously haven't noticed, EU members also trade with countless countries that aren't EU members.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sun 23 Jul 2017, 19:37, , Reply)
This is a normal post in the very long term you might begin to understand how the world around you works

(benito vaselini no not that one, Sun 23 Jul 2017, 19:43, , Reply)
This is a normal post Perhaps.
But the world of international trade and commerce, and the legal power of the WTO, will be forever beyond your ken.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sun 23 Jul 2017, 19:48, , Reply)
This is a normal post it pains me to say
but Benny is right on this. Our trade has benefited enormously fron the single market - championed by Mrs T. We do more business with Ireland (pop. 4.7 million) than with China (pop 1.4 billion).
 (I helped save b3ta! The Ann Coulter Fan Club Babylon is burning at, Sun 23 Jul 2017, 19:56, , Reply)
This is a normal post Define trade. Numbers/units etc. Sources.
Ireland needs the UK more than the EU in terms of trade. Also, why propagate the myth that such trade will cease when we leave a economic bloc. No one buys goods or services on the basis of origin (AOC type stuff excluded). They buy it because they want it.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sun 23 Jul 2017, 20:02, , Reply)
This is a normal post The EU has trade restrictions...
...so the reason we trade more with Ireland than, say, China is because we are required to. Open up the market and we will trade how we used to with who we want to and businesses around the world will be able to do the same. In other words proper free trade. That includes European countries whose companies will still want to do business with the UK whether part of the EU or not.
 (I helped save b3ta! The_cold_stare Coming here only when very, very bored, Sun 23 Jul 2017, 20:31, , Reply)
This is a normal post NUMBERS DATA FACTS SOURCES.
So the fifth or sixth biggest economy in the world does less trade with the second largest economy in the world than a neighbouring minnow? GTFO.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sun 23 Jul 2017, 20:37, , Reply)
This is a normal post nice
how about the drawing of a huge phallus on the face of the moon?
 (I helped save b3ta! Firkinfedup last shat on your wife's tits at, Mon 24 Jul 2017, 11:28, , Reply)
This is a normal post Well that's assuming we pay them 66 billion.
First off that figure is a guess based on the assumption that the EU is going to make up a huge figure in order to punish us for leaving to scare other into staying.
That would be dangerous and very petty of them.

Can't say that I would be campaigning to stay in a union with a group that behaves like that.

I would be tempted to believe they may try because I think they are complete cunts.
For example see they are holding up a deal on eu citizens in the UK by insisting they have more rights than UK citizens.

We would however have to agree to pay of course. If they try anything like that I say fuck em and walk away.
 (I helped save b3ta! Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Mon 24 Jul 2017, 13:30, , Reply)
This is a normal post well nobody knows how much it'll be, the devil's in the detail...but
the UK is not going to pay any more than it has committed to - that'll be ensured by David "British bulldog" Davis.

The EU budget works in a 7 year cycle (known as the multiannual financial framework) so depending where we are with this will determine how much we have to pay. However if we've legally committed to x for the lifetime of whatever portfolio of capital projects x is we will have to pay (or risk stalling the "negotiation") - either way the EU wins.

You can't order a takeaway then when the delivery boy turns up just go "nah you're alright mate". Unless you're happy with never getting takeaway from that place again.
 (theswollenbeef where there's a will there's a wank, Mon 24 Jul 2017, 18:02, , Reply)
This is a normal post or 30% of Trident's renewal cost
but it's ok because we're already doing that for defs - no questions asked.
 (theswollenbeef where there's a will there's a wank, Tue 25 Jul 2017, 12:17, , Reply)
This is a normal post Uuuuuh ...
... how exactly do you think that we could do something with this "instead of Brexit"?

The EU's argument is that we need to pay this money because we have already committed ourselves to squandering it on EU bullshit. We don't get to keep the money if we stay!
 (Mr T, Thu 27 Jul 2017, 0:12, , Reply)