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This is a link post this used to get a fair reaction among the assange haters, but these days it seems like small potatoes
Here is his police transcript just made public.
well maybe haters is too strong a word. a fair few b3tans found him smug, arrogant, and therefore he must be guilty the white-haired twat.
though this is admittedly just his side of the story, I read a lot about the case at the time, and I found the actions of swedish prosecutor highly irregular at best, a massive injustice to assange at worst. I don't claim some conspiracy theory with the US, it seemed much more motivated by the rather extreme political views of the original lawyer (and gender spokesman for the SD party) Borgström, who claims that all men carry a collective responsibility for violence against women and supports a "tax on men". He successfully appealed to reopen the investigation when the original prosecutor said there was insufficient evidence to proceed. His client then fired him saying that he was only interested in media attention. the case was then pushed by prosecutor Ny who pre and post assange advocates "preventative detention for men accused of rape but not found guilty", which seems to somewhat depart from the "Innocent until proven guilty" bothersome precept. If you look at the way the swedish prosecutor have managed the case at each step at the way, as well as the leaked testimony of the alleged victim (not ethical, but no one has denied it's veracity), it seems like a cack-handed collusion between a rather stalky woman and two individuals with overt political agendas and ambitions that stood to be bolstered by a high profile case. anyway that's my two pence.
 (I helped save b3ta! cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Wed 7 Dec 2016, 11:49, , Reply)
This is a normal post He sounds like a deeply unpleasant human being
"I felt concerned about the intensity of [her] interest and I also deeply loved another woman, which played on my mind and left me emotionally distracted"

but still managed to fuck her twice anyway
 (I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 7 Dec 2016, 12:02, , Reply)
This is a normal post oh, to be as perfect as happytoast
he wouldnt be the first bloke to put aside his misgivings on the better than average chance of getting his end wet. I wouldn't crucify him for that. i've made worse mistakes.
 (I helped save b3ta! cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Wed 7 Dec 2016, 13:38, , Reply)
This is a normal post you cant make a judgement based on this transcript alone, you need all the evidence.
I often read reports from court where I think 'yeah, he definitely did it' and the jury ends up acquitting. The proper place for all this to be considered is a prosecutor's desk and then a court room if he thinks there's enough evidence to proceed, not in the newspapers
 (benito vaselini no not that one, Wed 7 Dec 2016, 14:04, , Reply)
This is a normal post Fair point
But I'm only saying what I think is likely, I'll never know 100%.
 (I helped save b3ta! cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Wed 7 Dec 2016, 21:52, , Reply)
This is a normal post hahaha, that makes someone perfect does it?
weird, I assumed not putting your cock in people you are "concerned about" was quite an easy thing to do. I must be superhuman.
 (I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 7 Dec 2016, 14:29, , Reply)
This is a normal post Really? You've never fucked anyone you shouldn't have?
I'm not talking about rape, just poor choices of sexual paetner?
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Wed 7 Dec 2016, 14:40, , Reply)
This is a normal post I can safely say I never have
How often have you got in to bed with someone you have concerns about (while being deeply in love with someone else at the time)?
 (I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 7 Dec 2016, 14:47, , Reply)
This is a normal post Mate, with my boat race my only concern is that it's consensual.

(I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Wed 7 Dec 2016, 14:50, , Reply)
This is a normal post the cockney rhyming slang probably puts a few people off too
or do you tell them you're Danny Dyer?
 (I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 7 Dec 2016, 14:51, , Reply)
This is a normal post Do you tell them you're Hugh Grant?
I bet you've got one of those T-shirts that says "this is what a feminist looks like".
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Wed 7 Dec 2016, 14:57, , Reply)
This is a normal post Hugh Grant? I've never been so insulted

(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 7 Dec 2016, 14:58, , Reply)
This is a normal post You wanna get out more.

(I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Wed 7 Dec 2016, 15:01, , Reply)
This is a normal post What you are describing is a classic misguided rebound after a broken heart scenario.
That is, hardly unusual.
 (I helped save b3ta! omnitruncatedkraken from Empire Algol, Wed 7 Dec 2016, 18:31, , Reply)
This is a normal post ^This
When my ex dumped me I was still madly in love with her. I fucked her best mate. It was a stupid thing to do, I shouldn't have done it, I was concerned about her intensity, especially as she was essentially throwing away a friendship, when I realised she was in love with me I broke it off which made things worse. It was a stupid thing to do but it was consensual.
 (I helped save b3ta! Peej, Thu 8 Dec 2016, 11:09, , Reply)
This is a normal post I think he should have gone to Sweden to clear his name.
Sweden is a civilised liberal democracy that has due process and a legitimate criminal justice system. If he's so obviously innocent he would have had no problem clearing his name. The whole 'I'd have been extradited to the USA' I don't buy. If any country in Europe would've extradited him, it would've been the UK.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Wed 7 Dec 2016, 12:03, , Reply)
This is a normal post I wouldn't be so trusting about US intentions or their willingness to nab people on foreign soil, from what I've read
I'm not saying his coming to the UK was a brainy move, but I think he has some legitimate fears of extradition wherever he might be, especially if he's already on remand somewhere. Remember that hacker they wanted extradite and put away for life for leaving a few juvenile easter eggs on the pentagon system. what was his name? Assange's website has been a thousand times more damaging, and these day they don't fuck around
 (I helped save b3ta! cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Wed 7 Dec 2016, 13:46, , Reply)
This is a normal post he has aspergers

(I helped save b3ta! colmcq2, Wed 7 Dec 2016, 12:13, , Reply)
This is a normal post Aspergers makes your pee smell.

(I helped save b3ta! Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Wed 7 Dec 2016, 13:04, , Reply)
This is a normal post Nah, that's beetroot.

(I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Wed 7 Dec 2016, 13:05, , Reply)
This is a normal post No, that turns your poo red.

(I helped save b3ta! Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Wed 7 Dec 2016, 13:06, , Reply)
This is a normal post No, that's analysis dusting.
Hahaha autocorrect
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Wed 7 Dec 2016, 13:15, , Reply)
This is a normal post Forensic science turns your poo red?

(I helped save b3ta! Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Wed 7 Dec 2016, 13:21, , Reply)
This is a normal post Doesn't it yours?

(eViLegion Chief Commissioner of the Scottish Lunacy Board, Wed 7 Dec 2016, 18:35, , Reply)
This is a normal post Depends how deep they probe

(I helped save b3ta! Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Wed 7 Dec 2016, 21:13, , Reply)
This is a normal post You're thinking of thrush.

(I helped save b3ta! sm.pl.crt.rs I don't fucking know, do I?, Wed 7 Dec 2016, 13:44, , Reply)
This is a normal post Usually

(I helped save b3ta! TownsendsPublisher is all gravy baby, Wed 7 Dec 2016, 13:57, , Reply)
This is a normal post really dont know much about the extradition process or Swedish law
My feeling is, a long-standing liberal democracy and ally has asked for his extradition to try him for something that is illegal here, that should be the end of it. You've got to trust them to run their own legal system havent you?
 (benito vaselini no not that one, Wed 7 Dec 2016, 13:20, , Reply)
This is a normal post Actually, they didn't want to try him, just interview him.
Had he stayed in Sweden they wouldn't have been able to arrest him on that basis.

What they did was issue a European Arrest Warrant after he left, which you can issue with far less evidence, and the receiving country isn't allowed to question it, and it lets you incarcerate the subject when you do get him back. So you get to defer it to the receiving country to actually make the arrest even when you don't have grounds yourself.
 (I helped save b3ta! joefish It's hard for thee to kick against the pricks, Wed 7 Dec 2016, 16:10, , Reply)
This is a normal post
Same shit the Amsterdam police pulled on that game show guy who claimed he punched a homeless man into a canal. Boy do they have egg on their face now ;)
 (Oswald Mosley (((triggering))) right wing cunts on, Wed 7 Dec 2016, 16:45, , Reply)
This is a normal post friendly countries being able to bring suspects in for questioning across borders seems fair I reckon
Again, it hinges on trust. Do we trust Sweden to treat him fairly. I do
 (benito vaselini no not that one, Wed 7 Dec 2016, 17:12, , Reply)
This is a normal post Yes, but when the system to do so can be invoked on weaker grounds than your own arrest procedures
Then it's widely open to abuse.

And it's being abused a lot, for example in petty little arguments over trespass on property near to borders, where there would be insufficient grounds to arrest someone in-country, but as soon as they go back across the border a prosecutor (i.e not even a judge) can sign a bit of paper than forces the other country's police to then make an arrest.

And you trust a prosecutor who has openly stated that she believes all men are partly responsible for sexual abuse cases and thus should, by law, be forced to pay a subsidy to compensate victims?
 (I helped save b3ta! joefish It's hard for thee to kick against the pricks, Wed 7 Dec 2016, 17:35, , Reply)
This is a normal post Awww, poor Rapey McRapeface
Life's been hard for him hasn't it?
 (I helped save b3ta! evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Wed 7 Dec 2016, 13:42, , Reply)
This is a normal post i do like the guardian headline "releasing rape statement"

(I helped save b3ta! cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Wed 7 Dec 2016, 13:50, , Reply)
This is a normal post Have to admit i've changed my opinion of him
I used to think he was a smug little twat who was avoiding the law for being a bit rapey.

However i've been reading the email leaks and come to a new understanding.

I now think he is a smug little twat who is avoiding the law for being a bit rapey but has some useful stories to tell.

BTW there's a good chance he's actually sitting in Guantanamo bay right now and has been since his internet was cut.
 (I helped save b3ta! Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Wed 7 Dec 2016, 13:47, , Reply)
This is a normal post He still comes across as a rapey narcissist

(I helped save b3ta! wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Wed 7 Dec 2016, 19:21, , Reply)