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"Are you prejudiced?" asks StapMyVitals. Have you been a victim of prejudice? Are you a columnist for a popular daily newspaper? Don't bang on about how you never judge people on first impressions - no-one will believe you.

(, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:53)
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On a very general non-topic specific board I used to post on years ago, I posed the question "Where are all the black swimmers?". Nobody actually said racist, but it was blatantly implied that it was a racist question to ask.

The intelligent reply was that it's an aconomic reason. Swimming lessons are expensive and black people tend to be lower earners (which I pointed out in itself was a rather glaring racial stereotype).

I also said that in the West Indies, they have a pronounced beach culture where everyone is expected to be proficient swimmers which kinda blew the economic argument out of the water (I care not about the pun).
(, Wed 7 Apr 2010, 12:06, 12 replies)
What about
Eric the Eel?
(, Wed 7 Apr 2010, 12:09, closed)
can't really be classed as a swimmer

(, Wed 7 Apr 2010, 12:17, closed)
He can swim better than I can.

(, Wed 7 Apr 2010, 12:20, closed)
I have no response to that statement

(, Wed 7 Apr 2010, 12:22, closed)
I don't think that is racist
unless black is a racist term for someone who is black.

I seem to remember hearing a black guy on a comedy show explaining why there aren't any. can't remember why it was though....
(, Wed 7 Apr 2010, 12:18, closed)
Was it Eddie Murphy?
Didn't he also say that you never see non-white bungee jumpers, because 'black people don't like no game with no rope!'?
(, Wed 7 Apr 2010, 16:05, closed)
I could definitely be wrong
but I remember some controversy years ago claiming that in general white people were better swimmers, and black people better runners. Or possibly the other way round
(, Wed 7 Apr 2010, 12:31, closed)
There is a good answer to that as well.
Aside from any socio-econo-political reasons that may or may not be valid.

The body of a black person is more dense than a white person, so they tend to sit lower in the water and it's therefore harder to swim fast.

Conversely a black person has relatively longer tendons compared to muscle in their legs, allowing them to run faster, hence the dominance of black runners in sprint events.

Both these facts are at least second hand, and should be checked before being quoted on QI. A pub quiz you'd probably get away with it.
(, Wed 7 Apr 2010, 12:36, closed)
^^^This^^^
I have heard this too - but have no evidence to support it.
(, Wed 7 Apr 2010, 13:09, closed)
African blacks have more genetic and phenotypic diversity than the rest of the human race put together
So while it may be true that the fastest sprinters are black, the best long distance runners, etc. it is probably also true that the worst sprinters and long distance runners are black (but harder to measure). For any given human parameter, the chances are that the distribution curve is somewhat flatter for black people than it is for other ethnic groups. Mainly because there are many different ethnic groups within the heading "black people", united only by their skin colour.

So the bodies of some black people may be more dense than the average white person. Other black people will be less dense. Some may have relatively long tendons; others will have relatively shorter ones.

Of such generalisations are prejudices made...
(, Wed 7 Apr 2010, 14:21, closed)
Of such generalisations are prejudices made?
Believing that black people have longer tendons or are more dense is never going to lead to prejudice unless you're seriously unbalanced.

No more so than believing they have higher genetic diversity than white people, anyway.

Generalisations are a good thing, they allow a better starting point for understanding things than having to start from 'new thing, what is it?'.

Also, assuming you're right (and you used bigger words than me, so could be), we're still lacking an explanation to why black people are notably absent from swimming events.
(, Wed 7 Apr 2010, 15:01, closed)
Wrongness
"The body of a black person is more dense than a white person, so they tend to sit lower in the water and it's therefore harder to swim fast."

If you are lower in the water then you can swim faster more easily, hence the rules about how far you can travel under water when pushing off from the pool end.
(, Wed 7 Apr 2010, 16:13, closed)

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