Gypsies are NOT 'pikeys' you uneducated moron,
Also, you calling a traveller a pikey is a slur. You're not a traveller, you have no right to use that term. It's fucking rude, and the height of ignorance.

It still amazes me how everyone would jump on someone who used the term paki' or 'nigger', yet are perfectly find with the spewing of hatred against the travelling community. Most of you wouldn't know the first thing about them, their culture or how they live.

I'm the first to admit that not all travellers give the communities a good name, but there are shit people in every ethnic group. Generalising an entire culture by the actions of a few is apalling.
( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Thu 27 May 2010, 15:13, 4 replies)

To be fair, many "travellers" don't travel very much.
Especially once the local council's put them up in their own adobe "permanent caravan" that's built out of breezeblocks and mortar.

Also - I am a traveller. I travel every day. Anyone who travels has the right to use the term traveller.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Thu 27 May 2010, 15:25, closed)

Did I say you couldn't use the word 'traveller'?
I don't think I did...

The term 'Pikey' is considered by many as a racist slur. It is NOT ok to use the word.
( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Thu 27 May 2010, 15:42, closed)

Sorry - you're quite right. I got confused when you wrote
"You're not a traveller, you have no right to use that term."

I don't see how travelling is a race, though - a bit like Judaism.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Thu 27 May 2010, 15:53, closed)

stealth editing you've done there
As you did say it.
(golddust QOTW now revolves around being a cunt, Thu 27 May 2010, 16:16, closed)

When you say 'by many'
I presume you mean by you, and by pikeys. Neither of whose opinion I care about.

Fuck pikeys - jobless chancers with zero respect for other people's property. As for it being 'racist' - the term comes from the tendency of certain unspecified social/economic groups to aggregate at turnpikes. Which makes it... locationist? I don't think they actually evolved into a separate race while they were there...
( Happy Phantom has been to Hastings, Brighton, and Eastbourne too, Thu 27 May 2010, 20:10, closed)

And pikeys are not gypsies.
Romanies, all fine and good. I restrict the word pikey to the criminal elements of the Irish Traveller community, who the OP was clearly dealing with.
( jim_bob can herd cats., Thu 27 May 2010, 15:26, closed)

What evidence do you have here, beyond the fake £20?
The fake £20 note that the OP and his mate knowingly passed into circulation?

Seems that this is a bit like the pot calling the kettle black to me.
( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Thu 27 May 2010, 15:40, closed)

Ok... evidence.
Can't believe I'm doing this, but oh well.

1. Irish accent, so evidently a member of the Irish Travelling community.
2. A Highway Maintenance truck knackered to the point of evidently being stolen.
3. A large campsite (the size of the campsite, or the fact it is a campsite, is not the important thing here) which judging by the OP's description was to put it diplomatically was not in the best of condition. Other Travellers I've known in the past tend to be clean, responsible individuals, with caravans where you'd be happy enough to eat your dinner off the floor without a plate.
4. Actually tarmacking someone's driveway
5. Fly tipping.
6. Passing fake money.

Seems pretty bloody obvious that they are pikeys. Although I agree with you on the point that the OP shouldn't have done what he did with the fake £20 mind.
( jim_bob can herd cats., Thu 27 May 2010, 16:01, closed)

Spot on
Plus when I use the term "camp site" what I actually mean is council owned green belt land that was empty the week before.

You also forgot aggressive intimidating and threatening behaviour.
(golddust QOTW now revolves around being a cunt, Thu 27 May 2010, 16:07, closed)

You do actually understand that other than the fly-tipping and the fake £20
(which frankly after his outburst in the van, the OP deserved)
nothing you have said in that post is actually illegal?
( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Thu 27 May 2010, 16:07, closed)

I mean really - is having an Irish accent evidence of being a criminal?

( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Thu 27 May 2010, 16:08, closed)

nothing illegal
Ok perhaps I glossed over a few points:

- Stolen vehicle (theft)
- Unroadworthy condition (motoring offence)
- Both of which would imply uninsured to drive (motoring offence)
- Most likely no employers liability insurance (lol).
- Above would imply tax avoidance
- Threatening behaviour and intimidation.
- squatting on public land
- destruction of public property


So you're right ASIDE from fly tipping, forgery and theft the guy was probably squeeky clean. Still a Pikey though.
(golddust QOTW now revolves around being a cunt, Thu 27 May 2010, 16:12, closed)

Where's your evidence beyond your own assumption?
As for the threatening behaviour - you fucking deserved it. If you hadn't have been such an arrogant little arsehole, then you wouldn't have had trouble.
( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Thu 27 May 2010, 16:37, closed)

your assumptions too
now you're the one making assumptions.

The threatening behaviour was long before I said anything, it was prolonged and throughout the day.

As for other evidence, well you're right the truck might not have been stolen. I've just never hot wired my own vehicle, smashed it's windscreen and left motorway maintenance stickers with another companies name on the back for fun.

The condition on the vehicle made it unroadworthy, you don't need evidence for that it was obvious. That's illegal on it's own.

The home owner was clearly never going to be paying for the work with a cheque which would also imply (but granted not prove) the Pikey wasn't paying tax on it. (Just for the record, as I was 16 at the time and in full time education I was tax exempt for my £10 of earnings).

The stuff in the truck was dumped on top of the previous days load, so there was the evidence he'd already been fly tipping.

Now how about you get over it and just accept that as described the "pikey" mentioned in the OP clearly was a criminal through the masses of evidence I was privy to of varying broken laws.
(golddust QOTW now revolves around being a cunt, Thu 27 May 2010, 17:03, closed)

Good God.
You're either shit-stirring or being completely blockheaded. Golddust covers it all in the post above.
( jim_bob can herd cats., Thu 27 May 2010, 16:23, closed)

Block headed? Me?
Sorry, but all I see is ASSUMPTION.
( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Thu 27 May 2010, 16:36, closed)

Yes, you.
Blockheaded. You're missing out three quarters of the original post just because you don't like the use of the word pikey. Pikey pikey pikey (don't like the use of the word? I'm sure there is a firefox bookmarklet that will make things all better for you). And then when the OP attempted to back up his points, and admitted his shortcomings on how he dealt with it, you chose to ignore it, and just made the same points, over and over again, without listening to what was being said. As many a /talker has said in the past, get over yourself (good luck with that), and remember it's just pixels on a screen. If you don't like it, hit the hide or ignore button. It's not rocket science.
( jim_bob can herd cats., Thu 27 May 2010, 16:42, closed)

yes, blockheaded.
I've said my piece. Described him as I saw fit and backed it up with facts.

Get over the name calling.
(golddust QOTW now revolves around being a cunt, Thu 27 May 2010, 17:05, closed)

Fake note
You're both right on that one though. I don't think we should have used the fake note.

However under the alternatives we had no money whatsoever and would have been dropped off right by the large gang of Pikeys intent on hurting us if the taxi driver knew we had no real cash.

That one was an act of desperation.
(golddust QOTW now revolves around being a cunt, Thu 27 May 2010, 16:21, closed)

Who gives a fuck what they are?
Thieving scum is all we need to know.
( stopmeandslapme Cometh the hour, cometh your mum, Thu 27 May 2010, 15:29, closed)

I'm not a football hooligan or chav vandal
but I've still been bundled into the same labelled group as them by persons of other ethnic groups based on simple assumptions like my skin colour or clothing. Likewise to me people who live in caravans, commit crime and squat on public land are Pikeys.

Point is if people of one culture do a lot to alienate or upset persons outside that group, they get labelled and persons or groups similar or sympathetic to them often get tarred with the same brush.

You're right there is a distinction between travellers and gypsies, also not all travellers are bad people. It's just that I, nor anyone I know or have spoken to, have EVER met a nice "traveller".

I'm always willing to change my opinion, but the story above is one based on personal experience. Likewise, where I've grown up, people who squat in caravans on public land are called Pikeys. OK, you and others may know them by different names, to me they're Pikeys.

Sorry if you don't like it.


There's an old fella in my town, he lives in a traditional wooden caravan, has a shire horse and plays a violin in town busking for money. To me he's a gyspy. He lives in a Gypsy caravan. He and I say hello whenever he's there and he's a nice bloke. He's not a Pikey. Nor has he ever tried to knife me or steal my wallet. See, I understand the difference between gypsies and Pikeys.
(golddust QOTW now revolves around being a cunt, Thu 27 May 2010, 15:31, closed)

Oh you're a chav are you?
That explains a lot. Sorry. Couldn't resist. But within the travelling community the word pikey can be quite insulting if misapplied. However based on your original description of the people involved, it seems like you hit the nail on the head.
( jim_bob can herd cats., Thu 27 May 2010, 15:34, closed)

lol, no worries!
But illustrates the point. White, sports clothing, likes a drink. I wouldn't blame someone for using the term about me although I know I'm not one.
(golddust QOTW now revolves around being a cunt, Thu 27 May 2010, 15:36, closed)

That's the thing.
I don't apply the the stereotype to the physical description. More the attitude. Most people I see dressed as you describe I mentally file under "human". Seems easier somehow.
( jim_bob can herd cats., Thu 27 May 2010, 15:39, closed)

*facepalms*

( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Thu 27 May 2010, 15:41, closed)