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# the apple doesn't fall far from the tree... or something like that
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# Karel Appel?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karel_Appel
(I helped save b3ta! mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this, Wed 30 Jan 2008, 20:47, archived)