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# Commemorative merchandise now available
(, Wed 29 Oct 2008, 16:37, archived)
# made by BBC worldwide no doubt
in order to fund their salaries
(, Wed 29 Oct 2008, 16:39, archived)
# err, and pay back profits into Public Service BBC
to keep your license fee down.

/just the facts blog
(, Wed 29 Oct 2008, 16:42, archived)
# i'm not disputing that
i've never made the "why do i pay my licence fee" whinge, i'm well aware that the BBC worldwide arm is the prime source of funding for most Beeb productions
hence paying their wages ;)
(, Wed 29 Oct 2008, 16:44, archived)
# sorry, it's a bit of a knee-jerk with me.
I used to get so pissed off with people complaining about BBCW leeching money from the License Fee payers, when it so plainly isn't the case.
Not you, guv.

I was rather proud to work there.
(, Wed 29 Oct 2008, 16:48, archived)
# tv licencing have pissed me off lately
but that's because their refund department is staffed by illiterate incompetent loons who don't even read the forms you send them that've been downloaded off their interwebs
(, Wed 29 Oct 2008, 16:49, archived)
# This^^^^
The BBC is one thing I am extremely proud of as a Brit. I think people in England sometimes forget how well respected it is round the world, and how good it actually is at times!

I only ever really watch the BBC and Channel 4 myself.

Also, I am more pissed off by the fact that Two Pints of Lager was allowed to take money from the BBC for so long. And not just that, the fact that they have let the writer of it have a new fucking show!
(, Wed 29 Oct 2008, 17:03, archived)
# without the BBC, we wouldn't have developed the great comedy from the
50's onwards, both TV and radio. Hancock, Round the Horne, ISIHAC, Python, making BIG stars out of Morcambe and Wise, The Two Ronnies, The Young Ones, Blackadder, The Was the Week that Was, Frost Report etc. The list goes on.
Also, look at the reign David Attenborough has had through the BBC to educate and show us a world most of us take for granted.
Documentaries, dramas, etc, the BBC produced epic shows on epics budgets through our fees, Abigail's party, Boys from the Black Stuff, I Claudius to name but a few. - These all stand the test of time.
And where would we be without radio 4?
/loves the beeb for the most part, and doesn't begrudge a penny of the licence fee. Although I take your point about 2 Pints, and equivalent shows. Amalgamate BBC3 and 4 into one channel and produce better quality shows to hit both target audiences, and stop trying to make BBC3 into E4 - we don't need it
(, Wed 29 Oct 2008, 17:09, archived)
# People seem to misunderstand the license fee.
You do not pay it to the BBC and it does not directly fund the BBC. The license fee is paid as a tax to the government who in turn fund the national TV station for it to provide educational and public service broadcasting. The license fee that you pay is for you to own and operate a receiver of TV signals ( and radio of course )which now includes your mobile phone and computer. It does not mention the BBC, is not collected by the BBC and has nothing to do with them.

Whilst I have nothing against the BBC I do believe that it has no further right to exist in its current form because it is not a national TV station providing the services that were required of it when it was created. That is why they get government funding and ultimately what the taxpayer pays for.

There is only one reason why the BBC exists despite not fulfilling its brief for decades and that is simply because the fact that it is government funded allows the incumbents of the day to levy a very lucrative and stealthy ( by obfuscation ) tax on the populace.

The BBC is long overdue for privatisation and should be allowed to seek its funding in the same manner as commercial stations. Thus putting an end to what has been an unfair tax for at least 30 years.
(, Wed 29 Oct 2008, 17:35, archived)
# Stop blowing peoples theories apart
with facts ;)

I would be very interested to know what people like Paul O'Grady and Richard and Judy are paid. I am pretty sure that they will be on salaries close to what Ross gets....
(, Wed 29 Oct 2008, 16:44, archived)
# but people don't realise that
the licence fee is also distributed to itv, c4 and five so don't care. plus they do make more on commercial revenue than BBC worldwide
(, Wed 29 Oct 2008, 16:46, archived)
# It doesn't, you know.
(, Wed 29 Oct 2008, 16:48, archived)
# marginally
but apparently they get a very small cut of the money, think it's for news programmes and the like officially.
(, Wed 29 Oct 2008, 16:50, archived)
# breakdown of the monthly fee: From Oct. 2007
* £7.54 goes on eight national TV channels, including BBC1, BBC2 and regional programmes.
* £1.17 goes on the 10 national radio stations, which cover music, news and sport.
* £1.01 is the cost of broadcasting all TV and radio output, and the cost of collecting the licence fee from 25 million homes.
* 75p covers the 40 local radio stations.
* 49p is spent on the 240 bbc.co.uk websites.
(, Wed 29 Oct 2008, 17:19, archived)
they seem to have left out the wages for the people who work for tv licencing, and the court fees for taking people to court for not paying (since the £1000 fine goes into the court systems if they do prosecute)
(, Wed 29 Oct 2008, 17:41, archived)
# errr, nope:
cost of collecting the licence fee from 25 million homes, which would include methods of obtaining it - wages, fees, courts etc
(, Wed 29 Oct 2008, 19:34, archived)
# so we can pay the salaries of Brand and Ross...
(, Wed 29 Oct 2008, 16:54, archived)
# Falllen on hard times since the broom cupboard?
taken to flogging T-Shirts? ;)
(, Wed 29 Oct 2008, 16:41, archived)
# hahahahahahah!
(, Wed 29 Oct 2008, 16:42, archived)
# Ha ha ha!
(, Wed 29 Oct 2008, 16:42, archived)
# Arf!
I think I could handle the board spammers if they were selling stuff like this.... for a while at least.
(, Wed 29 Oct 2008, 16:47, archived)
# ha ha ha
I'd probably rock that - HARD like it ain't no thing.
(, Wed 29 Oct 2008, 16:42, archived)
# Nicely!
I am sure these will be in Camden by Saturday....
(, Wed 29 Oct 2008, 16:43, archived)
# hahahahahaha
(, Wed 29 Oct 2008, 16:43, archived)
# we have all fucked some ones granddaughter
thanks for telling me Snape
(, Wed 29 Oct 2008, 16:45, archived)
# That is terribly philosophical Earl,
but Kebab hasn't ;)
(, Wed 29 Oct 2008, 16:46, archived)
# Haha.
(, Wed 29 Oct 2008, 16:46, archived)
# but it is true
(, Wed 29 Oct 2008, 16:50, archived)
# 'gwanddaughter'
(, Wed 29 Oct 2008, 16:46, archived)
# oh shit yeah....

(, Wed 29 Oct 2008, 16:50, archived)
# So wow that's a neato what now right
(, Wed 29 Oct 2008, 17:08, archived)
# Whatever happens...
...I think that Andrew Sachs is a true gent.
(, Wed 29 Oct 2008, 18:18, archived)