How do you react when you hear you might have combustible cladding under aluminium sheeting on your building.
Remove the aluminium leaving the cladding nice and exposed of course.
Muppets....
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Mon 17 Jul 2017, 10:38,
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This is what happens when lifelong penpushers try an arse-covering exercise
The price difference between using a petrochemical*-based foam insulation which will burn and a mineral based one which won't burn is not as great as you'd think.
Then again, as the old saying goes 'look after the pennies and who cares if the proles burn'**
*The clues were there in the 'petrochemical' bit
**I may have misquoted this
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I note from the article that they are going to use cement boards for the rain cladding. Good idea - excellent way to make sure that there's a really good chimney effect to spread the fire and fumes upwards
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That's the best cladding available from a fire safety perspective.
I think we've done our experiments with building with Asbestos as a society.
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DinivanX Has stinging piss after drinking Pact Coffee, Mon 17 Jul 2017, 12:11,
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Rockwooll works- won't burn and doesn't cause mesothelioma*
*My uncle died from Mesothelioma** - contracted when he worked at Ferodo
**took two weeks to cremate him
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That's not cladding. That's the insulation itself.
And yep Rock wool variants are the go-to good stuff for insulation.
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DinivanX Has stinging piss after drinking Pact Coffee, Mon 17 Jul 2017, 13:10,
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Yeah, the bellends in Salford took the cladding off and exposed the seriously burny inslation.
There's a couple of rockwool* based combined insulation/rainscreen products - only trouble is, rockwool expect the contractors to go through their training and actually be efficient and diligent.
*Quick confession - I used to work for a rockwool group company, on the acoustics side.
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You're getting rock wool kickbacks. Admit it!
I am genuinely surprised once it has been known that these buildings are all really burney nobodies torched one yet.
Whether it's for shit's n giggles or an attempt to get re-housed in a nicer buidling.
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Mon 17 Jul 2017, 13:30,
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I'm surprised too
I think it'll happen - sometime this year. However, my local council appear to have specified rockwool* in their external insulation** projects - at least in the ones I've seen recently.
*Wish I was getting kickbacks but haven't worked for them for quite a while.
**I kid you not - someone actually tried to call this idea 'outsulation' as it was on the 'outside'. I think it was the first time he'd been called a fuckwit by an entire salesforce.
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But doesn't removing the aluminium stops the chimney effect?
with out the aluminium "tubes" running up the entire height of the building the fire doesn't spread.
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buffet_the_appetite_slayer ٩(●̮̃•)۶ jacked in to the ICE on, Mon 17 Jul 2017, 15:28,
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Unfortunately no - The insulation here is able to sustain a fire on it's own
Hence the rockwool comments above.
If anything, because you can light the insulation without an accelerant (that's not the case with the Al, it needs a higher temp) they've made the problem worse by doing this
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DinivanX Has stinging piss after drinking Pact Coffee, Mon 17 Jul 2017, 15:45,
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There was somebody on the telly box the other night testing samples with a lighter.
burned very easily.
Can't believe this was passed as safe to slap onto the side of a building.
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Mon 17 Jul 2017, 15:55,
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I've taken a more significant interest in this
Since seeing the insulation from Grenfell land on my balcony and car still burning ....
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DinivanX Has stinging piss after drinking Pact Coffee, Mon 17 Jul 2017, 15:58,
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