as if it matters, here's what actually happens:
The European Commission has the initiative to propose legislation. During the ordinary legislative procedure, the Council (which are ministers from member state governments) and the European Parliament (elected by citizens) can make amendments and must give their consent for laws to pass.
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The European Commission has the initiative to propose legislation. During the ordinary legislative procedure, the Council (which are ministers from member state governments) and the European Parliament (elected by citizens) can make amendments and must give their consent for laws to pass.
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You mean
it bypasses our parliament entirely?
Thanks for confirming.
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it bypasses our parliament entirely?
Thanks for confirming.
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Of course the EU legislative process bypasses our parliament
if you don't think that's a good idea for a trading bloc of 27 countries which in many cases have upper and lower houses and totally uncoordinated legislative agendas - then there's no talking to you. Also, I was correcting your statement about the Commission - I don't want to get sucked into another tedious EU debate now the horse has bolted...
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if you don't think that's a good idea for a trading bloc of 27 countries which in many cases have upper and lower houses and totally uncoordinated legislative agendas - then there's no talking to you. Also, I was correcting your statement about the Commission - I don't want to get sucked into another tedious EU debate now the horse has bolted...
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I think you
just misinterpreted it but happy not to have a pointless debate.
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just misinterpreted it but happy not to have a pointless debate.
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It does not bypass our government though
The part of our government which is in Brussels gets to have a say.
Your argument is like saying Nottingham council decisions do not go through Bristol council so they are undemocratic.
This is of course utter rubbish.
They still happen through a democratic process under the supervision of elected officials.
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The part of our government which is in Brussels gets to have a say.
Your argument is like saying Nottingham council decisions do not go through Bristol council so they are undemocratic.
This is of course utter rubbish.
They still happen through a democratic process under the supervision of elected officials.
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the 'anti-democratic' argument is all related to xenophobia and parochialism
It's not rational if you think about any of it for a millisecond
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It's not rational if you think about any of it for a millisecond
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Maybe think about it a tad longer than that eh?
And if you want to talk democracy wasn't the EU recently threatening to remove Polands voting rights?
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And if you want to talk democracy wasn't the EU recently threatening to remove Polands voting rights?
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