Leaving without a deal means an instant 10% hike on all imports coming from the EU (estimated 3/4 of all of our imports).
7.8% of the UK population are considered to be living permanently below the poverty line. This is going to push that up in a noticeable fashion for everyone.
Ironically the EU average percentage of people living perm. below the poverty line is 15.9% so in many ways by leaving the EU, we're actually becoming more like them. Well done brexiteers.
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DinivanX Has stinging piss after drinking Pact Coffee, Tue 10 Oct 2017, 14:34,
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Having spent last week in a factory in Marseille, I would suggest some countries could alleviate that poverty by not spending the 35 hours they are allowed to work discussing what to have for lunch.
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Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Tue 10 Oct 2017, 14:43,
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Only 6.1% permanently below the poverty line in France. They are doing better than us in that respect.
Perhaps their economy does quite well of the back of their gastronomic culture?
Probably wasn't a consideration for most Brexit voters due to their primary food group being "Greggs"
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DinivanX Has stinging piss after drinking Pact Coffee, Tue 10 Oct 2017, 14:46,
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They certainly don't seem to have a problem with workplace stress either.
I have never seen such a complete lack of urgency in the face of a decidedly unchuffed customer.
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Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Tue 10 Oct 2017, 14:48,
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Just wait until Macrons gotten his way.
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Tue 10 Oct 2017, 14:52,
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I like coconut macrons best
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Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Tue 10 Oct 2017, 15:02,
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That 10% import duty would go to the state right?
We imported £312 billion from the eu last year, think we could find a use for 10% that?
How about use some to lower the VAT on healthy food?
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Tue 10 Oct 2017, 14:45,
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I'm sure we could, however what's actually going to happen is that the £312b will simply go up to £340b for us consumers. That's a huge extra wedge out of our pocket, which will hurt consumer spending, deepening recession and any tariffs raised will simply end up being sent on spiralling debt.
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DinivanX Has stinging piss after drinking Pact Coffee, Tue 10 Oct 2017, 15:01,
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UK consumers pay the import duty on goods entering the UK, you realise that?
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Quite clearly he doesn't
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DinivanX Has stinging piss after drinking Pact Coffee, Tue 10 Oct 2017, 16:15,
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Well yes they will if the importers pass it on. It's a tax. That's how taxes work. This is my realising how taxes work face.
And like any tax the state then spends it.
Like in my example of reducing tax on healthy food.
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Tue 10 Oct 2017, 16:31,
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So you're happy that the government will be stealing an extra 10% of our money on a significant proportion of our goods, as their tax allocation and spending plans are absolutely above criticism and we'll definitely be seeing all of that ploughed back into public services, the NHS and saving babies.
Thank god the government can be trusted more with my cash than I can.
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DinivanX Has stinging piss after drinking Pact Coffee, Tue 10 Oct 2017, 16:35,
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I believe in the welfare state which has to be paid for out of taxation so absolutely yes.
If that mean putting a 10% tax on eu goods so people source locally or pay the cost of undercutting uk producers then so be it.
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Tue 10 Oct 2017, 16:47,
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You can't source locally you dumb shit
We don't have a manufacturing base, we produce a low number of luxury items and a lot of our imported food won't grow here because of the climate.
Also British goods are shit, we've got a horrifically lazy, undereducated workforce who are just about able to half-ass a job as a bar person.
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DinivanX Has stinging piss after drinking Pact Coffee, Tue 10 Oct 2017, 17:00,
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And now we regress to name calling?
We are how the eu has made us over the decades.
I want something better.
Fuckity bye, i'm off to watch how the Catalan debate is going.
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Tue 10 Oct 2017, 17:04,
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What something better are you envisioning? I'd just like to understand this amazing future utopia you've envisioned and the exact steps you're expecting this slightly irrelevant island cluster and it's ultra competent politicians to take to get there.
It's got to be utterly fantastic to justify what you've chosen to throw away. It better have unicorns and hoverboards.
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