Except it isn't, because there's no appetite to reverse it in the cabinet or shadow cabinet, regardless of the negative consequences and impacts. The Racists, Russians and filthy rich won this one.
Good quote from David Davis in there though: "A democracy that has lost the right to change its mind has ceased to be a democracy."
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That doesn't mean it's irreversible.
It just means that it probably won't be reversed (and we should note Terri's suggestion this morning that leaving should be baked into law on a particular date, irrespective of any facts or sanity).
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Sure, "it's not going to be reversed" isn't quite the same as "irreversible" but they have the same end result ...
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Except
one means it cannot be reversed no matter what and the other means all that has to happen is for some people to change their minds.
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My Name was saying these words inside your head on, Fri 10 Nov 2017, 11:48,
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^This^
It's really rather fundamental.
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Suck it up libtards
A bright new future of European conflict (and, hence, much-needed population thinning and scientific advancements) beckons.
Perhaps, also, a long-overdue resurgence in Christianity (and the persecution or expulsion of heretics, infidels and atheists).
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Mr Mann I love pigs, best of all the animals, Fri 10 Nov 2017, 11:39,
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I, for one, welcome our new Russian overlords
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DinivanX Has stinging piss after drinking Pact Coffee, Fri 10 Nov 2017, 11:49,
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All Russia can do is cause trouble
It has no economy worth speaking of, doesn't have the institutions or legal framework to let business thrive, is riven by corruption and state theft on a colossal scale, and has nothing to export but oil, gas and disinformation.
We and the French, however, have nuclear weapons.
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Mr Mann I love pigs, best of all the animals, Fri 10 Nov 2017, 11:57,
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Last time i looked in the cupboard Russia had more than both us and those froggy rascals over the channel.
woldnt be surprised if the Gvnmt actually privatise the nuclear weapons system and have to pay mega bucks to compensate the new owners if they ever need to fire them, of course it would have to go to a shareholder vote first though
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fluffybunnykiller Is feasting on the clitoris of life, Fri 10 Nov 2017, 12:02,
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So do the Russians
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My Name was saying these words inside your head on, Fri 10 Nov 2017, 12:03,
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Yeah, you might not hve realised his, but Russia has Nukes too. A lot more of them than we do.
A lot more of them than we and the French combined have, in fact.
And more importantly, unlike us, Russia doesn't need the USA's permission to launch their nukes.
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I'd be careful what you wish for
Sexual deviants are normally fairly high up their list
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It was trying to create a unified europe that was the motivation behind so many wars over the centuries.
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Fri 10 Nov 2017, 12:28,
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Yeah unified behind Napoleon, Unified behind the Kiaser, Unified behind Hitler its the isle of white we have to watch out for they aree building there forces in full daylight and passing it of as tourism
it isnt, it is full scale military mobilisation, have you seen there latest vehicles? full stealth, you dont even know it is a weapson system untill its to late/ those double barrel 99's are no joke when you are faceing the bussines end. And those so called called deck chairs? even the Vietcong didnt stoop so low as reclining man traps, its unuman what there twisted scientists have thought up, all those storys of standing on lego? field testing in progress.
You think that is a RO/RO ferry? think again, its a full onasualt landing craft
If you dont hear from me again, is because i have said to much
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fluffybunnykiller Is feasting on the clitoris of life, Fri 10 Nov 2017, 12:45,
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You really don't see a difference between complete military subjugation under dictatorial regimes and a group of independent nations coming together for their greater good allowing all to keep their cultures and identities?
*backs away slowly* .. okay.
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DinivanX Has stinging piss after drinking Pact Coffee, Fri 10 Nov 2017, 13:15,
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I didn't say there wasn't a difference did I?
Just pointing out many wars have been fought and lost because psychopaths have gotten it into their head to join a bunch of countries together.
This latest attempt at a unified Europe is just more subtle.
Like boiling a frog, at least we're getting out with just minor burns.
And as for "group of independent nations coming together for their greater good allowing all to keep their cultures and identities? "
Let's see in 20 years time how much of that culture and identity remains in the United States of Europe.
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Fri 10 Nov 2017, 13:35,
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What do you consider these "minor burns", or are you just inventing shit to fit your narrative? EU membership has been hugely beneficial for the country.
Your paranoia about furrins is simply off the charts.
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Cerebrus isn't paranoid about foreigners
But I am. Muslims, mostly. I don't want any more in this country until we have worked out how to integrate our existing ones into society.
So if you want to shout "racist" at someone, do it at a genuine racist like me.
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Mr Mann I love pigs, best of all the animals, Fri 10 Nov 2017, 13:48,
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Okay, but you know they aren't coming from "Europe" don't you?
They're coming from the middle east and north africa. You also might have noticed that the EU/France are actually preventing lots of them from running through the Channel Tunnel, something they'll have no incentive to do due to Brexit.
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don't take away his race card, it's the only one he's got to use.
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MrMann makes perfect sense how many of you have been in a muslem dominated area in this country and felt like it was different country
They have no intention of becoming English and joining the comunity, and in many places the areas they live in are shit holes and filthy, Not all are like this and there asome genuine muslems who want to do the best for them selfs and the wider comunity as a whole.
Call me a racist if you want but i have seen the slowly creeping cancer these cause and it does need to stop
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How is leaving the EU going to do anything but make that worse? The EU are literally "protecting you" from a big set of muslim/syrian refugees currently sitting in Northern France.
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I don't really see how Germany accepting 1.2m Muslim refugees in one year isn't a problem
Or the 200,000 a year they've promised to "limit" it to.
Or the quota system that is the only rational response to the huge numbers of people desperately setting out from the North African shore (in the certain knowledge that Europeans will pick them up a couple of miles offshore - and well within the 12 mile limit).
And even if the migration ended tomorrow - which it won't - that is still a very considerable number of aliens (in every way) already in situ that the continent must somehow incorporate.
#racist
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Mr Mann I love pigs, best of all the animals, Fri 10 Nov 2017, 14:29,
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Germany is not the UK. That still applies whether we're in or out of the EU. Just because Germany took in extra refugees doesn't mean we're obligated to do so.
I'm happy that you're admitting it's a racism thing, it's refreshingly honest - the contortions that people try to pull themselves into to try and say their decision wasn't a racist one are pretty fantastic.
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1) Free movement of people in the EU
2) Attracts more migrants to Europe
3) My point about EU migrant quotas
4) You're welcome! It is absolutely no skin off my nose to be thought a racist by a thick student on the Internet
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Mr Mann I love pigs, best of all the animals, Fri 10 Nov 2017, 14:49,
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It's also clearly no skin off your nose to directly chose to wreck the economic future of the country to support your racist views. Cheers for inflicting that on everyone else.
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A society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they shall never sit in.
Also, don't assume I voted for Brexit. In fact, I'm one of the 28 per cent. (I was busy...er..."helping the police" that day...)
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Mr Mann I love pigs, best of all the animals, Fri 10 Nov 2017, 15:02,
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First thing to do is stop picking them up from there boats and taking them to Italy or Greece
pick them up and take them straight back to the nearest beach/port they left from, that will disuade some from attempting to cross, the people that set these up, sell the point that you will be picked up and taken to xxxx. Stop doing that and that will be a start
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fluffybunnykiller Is feasting on the clitoris of life, Fri 10 Nov 2017, 15:09,
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You're totally fine with preventing innocent people from fleeing a warzone?
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DinivanX Has stinging piss after drinking Pact Coffee, Fri 10 Nov 2017, 15:31,
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^ This guy, saving the world with his keyboard
Don't let anyone tell you he's not making a difference.
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Mr Mann I love pigs, best of all the animals, Fri 10 Nov 2017, 15:38,
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Way to dodge the basic moral question.
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DinivanX Has stinging piss after drinking Pact Coffee, Fri 10 Nov 2017, 15:41,
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Yes, I'm fine with that.
These people do not exist to me, any more than some nameless fruit vendor in Peru exists.
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Mr Mann I love pigs, best of all the animals, Fri 10 Nov 2017, 15:48,
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Wow you utter cunt. You're an honest cunt though.
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DinivanX Has stinging piss after drinking Pact Coffee, Fri 10 Nov 2017, 15:59,
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Yet I do more for refugees that you have ever done, or will ever do.
Funny that, isn't it?
You care with all your heart, because it makes you feel better. And it doesn't do anyone else a bit of good.
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Mr Mann I love pigs, best of all the animals, Fri 10 Nov 2017, 16:04,
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You're passing judgements on my charitable and foreign aid work, based on what knowledge? Yep, you help some refugees learn english and that's super as I've said before.
Sure I care a little about the plight of the helpless and things like basic human rights because I can empathise without having met someone and think "but for the luck of birth that could have been me". If you think that's something to be belittled and ridiculed that's your problem not mine.
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DinivanX Has stinging piss after drinking Pact Coffee, Fri 10 Nov 2017, 16:22,
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I'm sorry
for being flippant. Obviously I have empathy for these people. I'm not a complete psychopath.
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Mr Mann I love pigs, best of all the animals, Fri 10 Nov 2017, 16:31,
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I'm sorry too
I also realise that there's a limited amount of empathy out there and people get bored of being told to be sad/upset/angry at whatever the issue of the day is and the emotive nature of these things get peoples backs up - No-one's immune to it.
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its not th genuine warzone refugees that is the problem, as mentioned earlier, it is the economic migrants
that are flooding europe and getting over here by various means that are causing the issues, they have no regards for anyone but them selfs and fuck anyone who doesnt kowtow to them, look at all the sex assualts in Germany and the rest of Europe carried out by these people, so bad in Sweden that the police are banned from describing suspects www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/swedish-police-are-not-allowed-to-give-descriptions-of-alleged-criminals-so-as-not-to-sound-racist-a6810311.html
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fluffybunnykiller Is feasting on the clitoris of life, Fri 10 Nov 2017, 16:44,
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Economic migrants are the backbone of the UK kickball league
Send 'em all back I say! Hopefully that would kill the fucking moronic game forever.
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"look at Germany"
dude, for the millionth time, Germany is doing fine.
The sex assualts (sic) you mention (I guess you're talking Cologne?) were in fact committed by people who'd moved here LONG before the last years of refugee influx.
Not only that, but any reported increases in crimes by undocumented people were either minor drug possession or fare dodging.
Further, there was an increase in immigrant crime rates, but the majority was amongst people from the former USSR and Balkan states.
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If i knew the answer to that i would tell you
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fluffybunnykiller Is feasting on the clitoris of life, Fri 10 Nov 2017, 16:29,
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as a child of a muslim immigrant:
go fuck yourself, you fucking cunt. (see? we can even integrate into your language!)
Also, are you in any way aware that majority-muslim countries and the EU are different things, or are you just using Brexit as an excuse to spout whatever dog-whistle racist shit that you want?
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Are you a Muslim though? Interesting to get your perspective.
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After you my dear Alfonse No. After you., Fri 10 Nov 2017, 18:29,
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nah, atheist
for what it's worth, I see it as muslims being the target du jour, just like with Jews, Irish, black people, gays, eastern europeans, muslims... and it's all the same arguments again (they're not like us / not our religion / not part of our community).
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