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This is a normal post I know its a cartoon
but that plane crash really sucks. Are you going for realism, or are you going for cartoon? Good choice of story though - Secret of the Unicorn was one of the very best.
 (I helped save b3ta! evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Tue 17 May 2011, 9:07, Reply)
This is a normal post Does it have to be one or the other?
I doubt if it was done realistically whoever was in that plane would survive the crash. Plus that boat sailing across the desert may be awkward ;)
 (I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Tue 17 May 2011, 9:16, Reply)
This is a normal post I think it does have to one or the other
Personally, I'd rather have beautiful animation (like early Disney or the recent Japanese stuff) than 'realistic' animation. Why spend £200mill on animation that looks 'real'?

Mind you, most Hollywood films are about 50% animation now so the boundaries are getting a bit blurry.

I'd mush rather have seen this as a hyper-styled live action film.
 (I helped save b3ta! Joe Scaramanga with a G-double-O-D vibration, Tue 17 May 2011, 9:20, Reply)
This is a normal post so you can do live action with cartoon
but not cartoon with traced live action? like Snow White was with the introduction of rotoscoping?
 (I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Tue 17 May 2011, 9:21, Reply)
This is a normal post Its the look
Snow White didn't look in any way "realistic". You can accept what's going on in that film because the characters and situations don't jar with the world they inhabit.
 (I helped save b3ta! evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Tue 17 May 2011, 9:30, Reply)
This is a normal post compared to what had come before
Snow White was a staggering piece of work that did look very real and many people complained about the juxtaposition of her movements with those of the dwarfs and the animals.
History repeating, very interesting.
 (I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Tue 17 May 2011, 9:33, Reply)
This is a normal post I don't know,
I think its because they're aiming for something that's so close to looking real that it just didn't work for me. Anyway, regardless of that I loved the books as a kid and I'll certainly end up seeing it. Its got enough people working on it who's work I admire to make me think it'll be good.
 (I helped save b3ta! evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Tue 17 May 2011, 10:11, Reply)
This is a normal post I think they've gone a bit too far into uncanny valley
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley
 (I helped save b3ta! gronkpan @vomitinglarry.bsky.social, Tue 17 May 2011, 12:23, Reply)
This is a normal post I didn't say that
It's just that with the tech that filmamkers have there's an obsession with making everything look 'real'.

I suppose maybe I'm just old fashioned and can't help feeling it's the sense of wonder has gone from most animation now, Pixar being the exception that proves the rule.
 (I helped save b3ta! Joe Scaramanga with a G-double-O-D vibration, Tue 17 May 2011, 9:34, Reply)
This is a normal post Terry Gilliam once said of photo real animation:
"When you're now taking what should be films full of people, living thinking, breathing, flawed creatures and you're controlling every moment of that, it's just death to me. It's death to cinema, I can't watch those Star Wars films, they`re dead things"
Perhaps Mocap is more organic, but I still find it takes my eyes a while to adjust to any film I've seen done that way - it still looks rather odd to see something lifeless prance round as a bewitched doll.
 (I helped save b3ta! Mster Johnny Ekstrom, now that's a name, Tue 17 May 2011, 9:40, Reply)
This is a normal post it's just a new form of puppetry
and that in itself is real people putting their input in (be it mocap or hand animated).
Quite odd coming from a man of his background :D
 (I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Tue 17 May 2011, 9:47, Reply)
This is a normal post The poster is superb!
www.empireonline.com/images/image_index/hw800/51373.jpg

That excites me more than the trailer
 (I helped save b3ta! Joe Scaramanga with a G-double-O-D vibration, Tue 17 May 2011, 9:55, Reply)
This is a normal post I think it does
If you're going to spend all that time and effort making the characters look alive and move and behave in a realistic way, you've got to apply that to the environment around them and the things they interact with. Otherwise it undermines the whole illusion. Plane crashes - especially light planes - are very survivable unless you've got absolutely no control over the thing. If you're writing the script you can decide whether its a survivable crash or not.

As for the ship in the desert - looks like a dream sequence to me.
 (I helped save b3ta! evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Tue 17 May 2011, 9:27, Reply)
This is a normal post as above
juxtaposition of does work, snow white to the dwarfs/animals of the forest. The cel drawing of the characters to the lush paint work of the environments.
It's just not what you're used to right now. It's trying something new. It might fail, but at least they're giving it a go.
 (I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Tue 17 May 2011, 9:34, Reply)