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This is a link post Muslim leaders file complaint over Islamophobia during parade

(, Mon 17 Jul 2017, 20:59, Reply)
This is a normal post Lulz.
My favourite LGBTPQRXYZ campaign group is Queers for Palestine. Say what you like about Israel and their foreign/settlement/general treatment of Palestinians policies, I'd actually probably agree with most of it, but at least they have the only functional democracy (as westerners understand the word) in the middle east. It's also the only country in the region where homosexuality is not a crime. They also have a well attended annual gay pride march in Tel Aviv. Where else does gay pride have a presence in the middle east?
(, Mon 17 Jul 2017, 21:22, Reply)
This is a normal post "If Gayth for Palethtine were in Palethtine, they'd have to move to Ithrael"

(, Mon 17 Jul 2017, 21:59, Reply)
This is a normal post Does the UK have hate speech laws?

(, Mon 17 Jul 2017, 22:30, Reply)
This is a normal post Yes?

You have to be trying pretty hard to fall foul of them though.
(, Mon 17 Jul 2017, 22:34, Reply)
This is a normal post I read about one European country in the news that wanted to curtail "bullying" and "hate speech" on the web
Seemed rather subjective with a high potential for abuse.
(, Mon 17 Jul 2017, 22:37, Reply)
This is a normal post you have laws on it too
(, Mon 17 Jul 2017, 22:45, Reply)
This is a normal post Maybe. That seems to only mention one law in Florida (lol) and because school districts are government entities they have to abide by free speech.

(, Mon 17 Jul 2017, 22:59, Reply)
This is a normal post Which country?
There's quite a lot of Europe.
(, Tue 18 Jul 2017, 7:34, Reply)
This is a normal post 'functional democracy'
as long as you accept it's a Jewish state. And considering how many non-Jewish people live within the 'pre-1967' borders, that's bloody lucky for Israel.
That said, the alternative are far fucking worse. As the second law of thermodynamics says - you can;t win, you can't break even but you can't stop playing the game.
(, Mon 17 Jul 2017, 22:41, Reply)
This is a normal post Aren't the borders around the 1967 war really just academic? I mean, there were several countries created after WWII that ignored ethnic boundaries.
Had Egypt and the others succeeded in taking land during that war, would the world be insisting that they return it to the artificial borders created after WWII?
(, Mon 17 Jul 2017, 22:45, Reply)
This is a normal post LIke Yuogoslavia you mean?
That went well.
(, Mon 17 Jul 2017, 22:45, Reply)
This is a normal post Well, exactly. If severa lof the countries were created by fiat, what makes one more virtuous than the other?
Damn British!
(, Mon 17 Jul 2017, 22:56, Reply)
This is a normal post I think you'll find that was Stalin and Roosevelt
Is there no bottom to the depth of your ignorance of history? Get a fucking book. And read it.
Edit: and Britain did not create Israel - we administered the Palestine mandate before handing it to the UN in 1947 due to civilian murdering Zionist terrorism (including inter alia the invention of both the car bomb and arguably the suicide bomber). Blame America and it's weirdo eschatologist preachers.
(, Mon 17 Jul 2017, 23:11, Reply)
This is a normal post Why you gotta be so rude? Don't you know I'm human too?
I am sure there is a bottom, but with patience you'll find it. I appreciate your willingness to engage one of such lower IQ. So Churchill was out of the picture by then?

And you are making it sound like only the US has an interest in preserving Israel.
(, Mon 17 Jul 2017, 23:30, Reply)
This is a normal post I apologise for hurting you feelings
But god damn, don't bring a sling shot to a nuclear exchange.
(, Mon 17 Jul 2017, 23:46, Reply)
This is a normal post You call it a sling; I call it a LARGE bannana hammock

(, Tue 18 Jul 2017, 0:07, Reply)
This is a normal post Right, oh!

(, Mon 17 Jul 2017, 23:46, Reply)
This is a normal post *Wades in with his size 9s*
The whole point of 'Queers for Palestine' is exactly to combat this type of 'pinkwashing' of their continuing military-colonial occupation of Palestinian territory. Whataboutism is a great way to ignore and excuse a group's faults and crimes - being good on one rights front does not in any way excuse gross violations on another front.

Some points:

1) Democracy isn't black and white - As the occupying power, they are effectively (and legally) in control of the West Bank and Gaza. Do people there have a vote on how this occupation is run? South Africa had democracy too ... for whites.
2) Israel's support internally for gay rights is laudable, but what does perpetual occupation do to support Palestinian civil society and gay Palestinians? Their rights go beyond those attached to their sexuality, and are violated daily in the same way as any other Palestinian
3) Visit Ramallah some day, and you'd be surprised by the gay scene there.
(, Tue 18 Jul 2017, 12:04, Reply)
This is a normal post Yes mate. The constant pink washing of Israeli policies is ubiquitous.

(, Tue 18 Jul 2017, 13:54, Reply)
This is a normal post Because I have an ad blocker I can't read it.
Which means whatever life changing message they were trying to convey isn't worth it unless they are paid.
(, Mon 17 Jul 2017, 22:35, Reply)
This is a normal post They want Eruvs. Everywhere.
Not just in suburbia north of London. Everywhere. Eruvs everywhere.
(, Tue 18 Jul 2017, 0:37, Reply)
This is a normal post Well they have one here now
and I'm very pleased for them. Now everybody is allowed to carry an umbrella if it looks like rain. I did actually suggest they made the whole of the UK an eruv and then it would be problem solved, but apparently it doesn't work like that. It has to be a small area, reasons unclear.
(, Tue 18 Jul 2017, 14:43, Reply)
This is a normal post Why not get them to make a small one but put a twist in ink so it becomes a mobius loop
That way everying is on the inside and outside and the same time.

Or... Umbrellas you say?
Why not put an eruv around the brim of one. When every you feel the need to dodge the trickier parts of your sky beings demands just pop it open and carry on with your life.
(, Tue 18 Jul 2017, 14:52, Reply)