Off Topicing here....
I went to my bank account today and I have just shy of £5. And by that, I mean, £5 left of my overdraft that is 20% HIGHER than my entire monthly wage. And I've borrowed £200 of Ma' this month. I can get a few quid together to go to work and all that, but it's not really a solution.

So, starting this week, I'm going to take out X amount every monday morning, and that has to buy everything for the week, such as food and fags and outings. I think its because buying stuff using a card or online isn't real. I need to hand over real cash.

Also, I love my job, I love my job to pieces, it is the best thing that has ever happened to me in my entire life. I'm not even exasorating, or if I am, it's in the top 3... losing my V plates isn't even in there. BUT, but, I am greatly underpaid for what I do and what I can do. Looking at Jnr jobs doing the same thing has a start of about 180% of my wage. I currently have to do private work to make it up.

Anyone got any general thoughts about all that? I'm gonna turn this month into a game where I'll spend as little as I can on everything, like food'n'shit, see how far I can make my money go, turn it into a fun thing. I'm not glum about it (although tonight I got myself all tarted up, looking really good, shaved, showered, bit of spray, best clothes, ironed too... but then when I looked in my account it said NO, YOU SHALL NOT GO OUT TONIGHT... which suck a bit, as I don't go out often).
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Sat 24 Mar 2012, 21:23, 5 replies, latest was 13 years ago)

When I went form earning a decent wage to being a student having no cash was pony but I quickly got used to it.
I would recommend making note of what you spend every day for a week. It's amazing how much I was wasting on shit.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Sat 24 Mar 2012, 21:31, Reply)

That ain't a bad idea, I got a spreadsheet with stuff I know about, like rates'n'stuff, but not for bits'n'bobs like magazines.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Sat 24 Mar 2012, 23:18, Reply)

It depends.
Are your bosses paying you X amount because they don't want to pay more, or because that's genuinely all they can afford?
if it's the former, you have to decide whether you could improve their income by taking them some marketing ideas or bringing in more custom, or something. They might appreciate your input.
If it's the latter, show them what your position is actually worth, and ask them to review your salary.

EDIT: actually, that's the wrong way round, isn't it? Sorry, I'm stressed. My brain stopped working about an hour and a half ago.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Sat 24 Mar 2012, 21:31, Reply)

Here's lovely.

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Sat 24 Mar 2012, 21:32, Reply)

I'm pretty sure it's not a money thing for them, the department is growing bigger and bigger, and there is lots of heavy expansion.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Sat 24 Mar 2012, 23:19, Reply)

Then they must be taking the piss a bit.
If you're on what, 60% of the salary that you should be then there's nothing keeping you there.

Their loss if you move.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Sat 24 Mar 2012, 23:20, Reply)

^ this

( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Sat 24 Mar 2012, 23:31, Reply)

I see what you mean, but I love the job, and they're very good to me with my illness stuff... that I do all my work, but I walk in at 12 and leave at 18, when my hours are 8:30-17
But I do a lot on the weekend.

I don't think they're taking the piss, it's more like, I haven't bought it up and my 3-month review hasn't happened for 6 months.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Sat 24 Mar 2012, 23:58, Reply)

You do need to push it
I bet their management meetings have a risk action about you leaving/asking for a raise.
( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Sun 25 Mar 2012, 0:06, Reply)

It took me a while to get used to having a debit card because I'm a money mong.
I've got the balance now though and manage to spend less using mostly plastic than I used to if I had cash on me.
( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Sat 24 Mar 2012, 21:32, Reply)

cool

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Sat 24 Mar 2012, 23:19, Reply)

I've read a couple of things recently about this
Find a bunch of references showing you're underpaid and casually ask your boss if you can have a chat for a few minutes in private. Present him with the evidence and ask if there's anything he can do with "the powers that be". He's probably expecting it, to be honest. Tech workers are perennially underpaid because they rarely push it.
( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Sat 24 Mar 2012, 21:34, Reply)

I guess most geeks are quite meek.
Gotta face the music though.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Sat 24 Mar 2012, 23:20, Reply)

Gird your loins!
If I do get offered this job I plan on asking for a quite excessive salary but at the same time suggesting I'm prepared to negotiate. I'm not going to enjoy it but I hope to come out with something more than I might have settled for.
( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Sat 24 Mar 2012, 23:39, Reply)

Yeah', makes sense.
I'll see if I can get my 3-month-meeting this week when I can't had it since oct.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Sat 24 Mar 2012, 23:59, Reply)

go go go
I have a renewed appreciation for how expensive it is down there. Insist they pay you what you're worth.
( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Sun 25 Mar 2012, 0:08, Reply)

The man speaks the truth.

( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Sun 25 Mar 2012, 0:09, Reply)

Surely the only way forward is to delete your account and kill yourself

( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Sat 24 Mar 2012, 21:41, Reply)

I hope you've cleaned the house and restocked the fridge.

( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Sat 24 Mar 2012, 21:42, Reply)

and made the beds and hidden the jazz mags.

( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Sat 24 Mar 2012, 21:42, Reply)

All of the above and more.

( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Sat 24 Mar 2012, 21:44, Reply)

Oh man, that doesn't sound like a good idea at all.
Are you sure you've thought this through?
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Sat 24 Mar 2012, 23:21, Reply)