Yeah,
The Scandinavian model works fucking BRIALLIANTLY in Finland, for instance.

/It is actually an aspect of the Scandinavian model they are trying to implement, namely making booze more expensive than gold. But the socioeconomic reasons for lower alcohol abuse in Sweden and Norway are way more complicated than only being able to buy booze between midday and 3pm on weekdays.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:36, 1 reply, 12 years ago)

They're not a bunch of socially conditioned piss-heads
who're only ever a stone's throw from alcohol-influenced violence the way us islanders are.
( Kroney, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:38, Reply)

In Iceland they are fucking nuts.
They don't have a violence problem but people routinely freeze to death having passed out in the street going home.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:39, Reply)

*crosses fingers for Bjork*

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:41, Reply)

Have you ever been out drinking with Finns or in Finland?
Fucking hell. You'd be amazed.

The biggest problem we have with alcohol in this country is crippling levels of self-loathing and critiscm. We aren't a nation of out-of-control psycopathic pissheads who are all going to die either bleeding out on a street corner or aged 30 of cirrhosis. But because the Daily Mail tells us we are, we believe them.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:42, Reply)

Also, they pretty much are
it's just Scandanavians are socially conditioned to get ruined in their own houses, so it's not public.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:43, Reply)

'cos its cold outside

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:43, Reply)

Too cold to go out innit

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:44, Reply)

because ANDREW MARR

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:44, Reply)

Also, the Finns are heavily armed which is not a good combo.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:43, Reply)

They are terrifying to go drinking with, especially in Tallinn.
I've had to erase whole days from my mind just so I can sleep at nights. Luckily, drinking with Finns in Tallinn can erase whole months from your mind, so that's OK.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:45, Reply)

win/win

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:46, Reply)

or is that lose/lose?

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:46, Reply)

both
simulateously.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:51, Reply)

Actually no, do they get fighty?
We're kind of known for being drunk and starting fights in Europe. The English, Scots and Irish, anyway. Not the Welsh. Nobody ever gives a shit about the Welsh. From personal experience though, they're every bit as bad.
( Kroney, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:44, Reply)

Because they seldom leave Wales cos they can't afford to.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:46, Reply)

Are we really, do you think?
Because we are considered culturally uncouth, I grant you. But a lot of violence is football based, and in that we are fucking amateurs compared to the Dutch, Germans and Eastern Europeans. Hell, we'd struggle to get past the Italians in a dust-up, and most Europeans know that.

There are issues with some of the Spanish and Greek holiday resorts, I know, but that's not entirely brits (the Germans again are textbook) but I wouldn't go as far as to say that's how we are all judged.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:49, Reply)

I knew a guy in the RN. He was docked in Antigua, where the RN and American navy regularly dock.
He said there was a sign on the bar there saying "Attn American service personnel. Please do not try to out-drink or out-fight the British".

I know, anecdotal evidence etc, but it's always stuck in my mind.
( Kroney, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:51, Reply)

I think we have the same level of drunk, violent, fighty twats as any other Northern European country
Ours are just a bit more vocal, a bit more stupid and then we have a fuckton more handwringing from our press.

There's plenty of anecdotes and personal experiences but they are all just isolated. I was on a train out of Munich full of Bayern fans that was deliberately stopped at a deserted station so that 1860 fans could storm and kick the absolute fucking shit out of them. That was pretty much the most terrifying thing I've seen. And I've been in Millwall when they've played Leeds. Doesn't mean I think all Germans are psycho.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:56, Reply)

And no, not particualarly fighty
but I thought we were talking about alcohol abuse and danger? The Finns just get cunted and start plying Russian Roulette with each other, that kind of thing.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:50, Reply)

cabin fever innit

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:51, Reply)