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(, Sun 1 Apr 2001, 1:00)
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Good morning all,
I am in a chipper mood this morning! How are you feeling?
Tonight I will be attending one of those planning meetings to object the building of 3 modern houses on the island, which I moved to as I liked that it was a conservation area, so all houses were pretty and had to be in keeping. Feel like a grown up, got my questions written down and all. When did you last feel like a privileged middle class prick?

Alt: racism at football matches? Ingrained problem or minority idiots ruining it for the rest of us.

Altalt: porridge?
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 7:50, 168 replies, latest was 11 years ago)
alright Windy pops, I was pleased to hear about your job offers etc
I have never felt middle class, in spite of private education, university and white collar job.
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 7:59, Reply)
That's because you are a Northerner.

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 8:03, Reply)
thing is though, posh Scottish doesn't count as culturally 'northern'; it's only geographically northern

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 8:14, Reply)
Tru dat.
Most of the posh jocks were English.
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 8:16, Reply)
not in Aberdeen

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 8:18, Reply)
Im gonna go ahead and agree with stunned.
But thanks man, it's a huge relief to be honest. Was getting a bit desperate.

Edit: I feel the opposite, always felt middle class, despite shit school, manual job, blah blah. Think it's because my father hates northerners.
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 8:06, Reply)
tbf, in the UK one traditional measure of your class was what your parents did/earnt.
But it can be measured in many different ways and I am sure Northern professionals are allowed to be called middle class.
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 8:09, Reply)
These days.

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 8:09, Reply)
Despite my disgust at this.

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 8:09, Reply)
Even scousers?

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 8:16, Reply)
The only exceptions to the new rules.

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 8:16, Reply)
Glad a few standards exist.

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 8:21, Reply)
Have you settled which job you are going to take?

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 8:10, Reply)
Yeah, after doing a bit of maths, the lower paid more local one,
Actually turns out to leave me better off. Taking in to account insuring the car for business as the higher paid one has no van included, and the cheeky cunts only offered 17p a mile.
So yeah, I'll be based around Oxford, Bucks, Berks, Wiltshire, bit of North London.
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 8:13, Reply)
Sweet, dude. Congrats.
When does the cash start rolling in?

I have to say, you've impressively re-trained and changed career in 4 months. Fucking good effort.

Rubbishes arguments that there is no work.
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 8:15, Reply)
Yeah, my expectations at the start of this,
and where I've ended up showed a little naivety on my part. It was HH that steered me in the direction of where I've ended up, and also I guess acceptance of a slightly lower salary and the knowledge that i'm going to have to prove myself from scratch in this industry. But yeah, there is work, but it's more competitive. I spent hours on my covering letters, and it was those that got the companies to take a punt on interviewing someone with 0 experience.
It's not the job i wanted when i started this whole thing, but it's a route to it, and in a couple of years, I'll be well away.
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 8:23, Reply)
And in the meantime sociable hours and weekends off.

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 8:27, Reply)
yeah, exactly,
there will be a little bit of evening stuff, but with overtime pay, and the odd weekend away for big contracts, but it's definitely a wild improvement for me and ladypig.
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 8:28, Reply)
I used to rep a bit in the first three counties.
Larvely area.
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 8:17, Reply)
yeah, i might have to become better acquainted with some of the back roads,
make driving to and from jobs a bit nicer out in the country.
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 8:29, Reply)
Morning WP. Very well ta. Well done on the job.
Yesterday when I was in court as an expert witness for the first time, jacket and tie and everything.
Racists abound. It's just you notice more when there's a crowd of them.
Porridge, winter only cooked with a pinch of salt. Bit of sugar and milk on.
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 8:09, Reply)
Can you talk about the case at all?
What type of expert are you?
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 8:11, Reply)
Just in my field in building renovation.
Geezer saying his customer didn't have a claim on his guarantee.
Judge decided he did. I struggled to not feel important lol.
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 8:14, Reply)
Nice.

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 8:14, Reply)
Was it the insurers saying no?

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 8:17, Reply)
No they weren't involved.
It was a property management company claiming on behalf of a landlord.
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 8:56, Reply)
Was the geezer's guarantee not insured?

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 9:19, Reply)
Morning, slightly hung over, mixed lager and red last night. Not a stonking one, just slightly headachey.
What island is it you live on? Last island I was on in the UK was Sheppey, lovely little place.
Alt, don't think it's an overt problem no.
Altalt, fucking hate the stuff. That and margarine ard the Devil's jizz.
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 8:13, Reply)
Oh, it's not a proper island really.
It's called Osney Island, its got the canal one side and the River the other, with joining channels top and bottom, so there's water all round, bridges on and off etc, but it's small.
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 8:16, Reply)
Sounds nice. Hope no doleys, bull terriers, immigrants, scousers geordies etc?

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 8:19, Reply)
there is a little estate at the bottom of the Island,
but everyone there seems to appreciate how nice it is here compared to other council flat blocks and keep it all nice. They've got a lovely little green area behind the flats that is kept lovely, unlike a lot of those.
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 8:24, Reply)
"shaped like an old fashioned belt buckle"

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 8:30, Reply)
Did you know that the miller in Chaucer’s The Miller’s Tale was actually the miller of Osney Mill?

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 8:40, Reply)
i did not,
that's a pretty cool fact.
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 8:40, Reply)
It's on your community website! Hahahaha.

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 8:44, Reply)
ha, i never even knew there was a community website,
some of the people round here take the whole village island vibe thing way too seriously.
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 8:47, Reply)
when i say cool,
i mean, GAY OLD BOOK FACT, GAY OLD BOOK READER
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 8:44, Reply)
AltAlt: not for me thanks, I may have a bacon roll later.
Congrats on the job btw.
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 8:16, Reply)
thanks man,
glad to be getting going.
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 8:25, Reply)
What is it you' re doing, sparks?

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 8:29, Reply)
got a contract PAT testing for a firm that does safety compliance stuff,
they've said that due to the fact that I'm already fixed wire trained, if i prove myself a decent worker with boring PAT work, there is opportunities to join their install and testing fixed wire and fire alarm side.
So, initially a lot of crawling around under desks, but potentially the sort of work I wanted to do in the first place, install and design.
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 8:32, Reply)
I'd have given the job to someone who didn't tautologize the job title.
No offence.
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 9:07, Reply)
There's a problem, here, tangles
everyone knows it's a tautology but there's no other way of saying it without sounding like a prick.

"what are you doing to that PC?"

"oh, just PATing it"
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 9:54, Reply)
Yeah congrats on the job.
What was said earlier about there being work around, tru dat.
Setting up a business to run in tje new year, market research shows there to ne a reasonable customer base. Basically people who are working long hours to pay off large mortgages, in their 20s and don' t have the time to do a certain thing. I' ve got good hopes for this.
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 8:27, Reply)
cool,
i'd love to go self employed in the end, are you going to tell us the idea? or scared one of us might steal it?
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 8:33, Reply)
It's not so much as anyond stealing it,it's I' m still refining it.
Based around gardening. Just thought, crawling under desks gives you a chance for some upskirt photography? Just leave the flash off.
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 8:42, Reply)
will do,
i'll start a tumblr.
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 8:43, Reply)
Good lad.

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 8:56, Reply)
Good luck with your venture
I didn't start my present business till in my forties.
Think a bit of life experience helps but the main thing is having a good idea and being totally enthusiastic about it.
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 9:02, Reply)
Thanks man.
Yeah I've set 3 up in the past, sold one, still run the other part time, the other failed. This looks to ne a good one.
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 9:11, Reply)
Are you setting up a dog-walking business?

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 9:04, Reply)
You're joking! Not a fan of dogs, fucking mobile shit machines.

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 9:09, Reply)
I feel middle class most days but only compared to the rest of Cornwall
Alt. I meet more racists in the pub than at the football.
AltAlt, Sometimes. with water though.
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 8:36, Reply)

DEVIL'S JIZZ DEVIL'S JIZZ DEVIL'S JIZZ.
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 8:52, Reply)
Morning
I'm feeling tired, but it's pretty much the weekend now.
I don't recall feeling like a privileged middle class prick recently. Should I be feeling this way?

Alt: There are racists in all walks of life; there are more idiots at football matches. Neither ruin much for me.

Altalt: No thanks, I've had muesli.
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 8:56, Reply)
Off to work for a while now.
I've enjoyed this thread, thanks guys.
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 9:10, Reply)
Recently my brother-in-law watched his girlfriend walking up the stairs and said casually
"That reminds me - I think I'll have porridge for breakfast tomorrow."
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 9:12, Reply)
This is still not as bad as dr and quinch's spunk fart reply on QOTW.

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 9:17, Reply)
What the very fuck?

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 9:21, Reply)
In this weeks QOTW. It's still on the front page about half way down.

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 9:27, Reply)
My suggestion (which has a nice pop at Emvee) for the next QOTW has made the vote:
b3ta.com/board/11023196
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 9:29, Reply)
I think this is going to either go the way of Sheds, or be an exceptionally dull week of nerds posting their shit toys.

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 9:31, Reply)
I posted just to have a go at Emvee.

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 9:32, Reply)
Yeah and it was worth it for that alone
Odd that it should be put forward for the vote though
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 9:33, Reply)
at what point did you start to realise your life has come to that?

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 9:37, Reply)
This morning.

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 9:38, Reply)
Wow.

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 9:47, Reply)
In the style of Captain Oates, "I'm off for a dump. I may be gone some time..."

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 9:14, Reply)
Why would you tell us that?

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 9:15, Reply)
To turn Kroney on?

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 9:19, Reply)
Steady

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 9:26, Reply)
I'm not great, Winders, not a fan of my job.
I am, however, at least applying for other work now.
Good on you for sticking up for a conservation area. While building in them is necessary, they should at least make half an effort to make the new buildings sympathetic with the old ones. I'd be filled with middle class fury if they built an ugly steel and glass flat block where I live.
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 9:29, Reply)
They did a good job 5 years ago with some new houses.
These new ones look horrid.

I am glad you're looking for work, nothing worse than being miserable 5 days out of 7
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 9:31, Reply)
How about being miserable seven days out of seven?
Perhaps Frogso can answer this
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 9:32, Reply)
Hi. Yeah, thanks for asking.
It's manageable, but requires determination and commitment. It's rewarding in it's own way but it *is* a decision you shouldn't go into lightly. HTH.
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 9:34, Reply)
Do you recommend a course of SSRIs to help with the management?
Or perhaps you advocate self-medication with a bottle of vodka, while staying in bed all weekend?
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 9:36, Reply)
Yeah, another good question. Thanks.
Initially I found the SSRIs didn't *do* much, and had my dose doubled. Then I found life was a bit better so knocked taking them on the head, as I kept forgetting to take them and found I didn't really need them, and was experiencing some side effect which were undesirable. I have started drinking more, and would definitely recommend that in pursuit of misery. Unfortunately I don't have the time at the moment to stay in bed all weekend, but it is something I am planning for in the not too distant future.
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 9:40, Reply)
Ah right, so you suggest stopping and starting taking prescribed medication as and when you choose, rather than under the guidance of a GP or other health professional?

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 9:42, Reply)
It worked for me!
Ideally you shouldn't do that, but I'm a fucking maverick and play by my own rules.
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 9:44, Reply)
^ got laid ^
^ behind a pizza shop ^
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 9:45, Reply)
Don't hate the player, hate the game innnit

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 9:47, Reply)
so basically
sex cheered you up.

typical man.
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 9:48, Reply)
Nah the pizza shag was years and years ago when my life wasn't such a mess.

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 9:49, Reply)
was that the last time you had sex?

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 9:54, Reply)
Can't remember cos I'm off my head on happy pills

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 9:55, Reply)
Cheers, I find the whole job hunting effort excruciating, so it's taking some effort.
I really can't stay where I am for much longer, though. It's doing me no good.
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 9:36, Reply)
You need to find a place with women you haven't slept with yet?

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 9:36, Reply)
i didn't realise how miserable job hunting made me until i got the offers yesterday,
to use a clichè, it was like a weight off my shoulders, instantly perked up, realised how much of a grumpy prick i've been the last few weeks.
Are you going to see about an industry move, or just a different office?
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 9:38, Reply)
hopefully an interplanetary one

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 9:40, Reply)
NO BEASTIE BOYS CHAT
RIP Adam Yauch 4eva in r harts wiv da angles now etc
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 9:43, Reply)
I ent suited for customer support. I have no patience and no tolerance for ignorance.
I'm going for an industry shift with a two-pronged strategy. I'd like to get back into publishing, so I'm going for web content work as a halfway measure. The other prong is AV installation. Two areas that I have transferrable skills for without quite so much direct prick interaction.
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 9:44, Reply)
ladypig is in publishing,
what sort of area are you looking at? Ladypig is in academic online, dealing with all the onlin journals that univeristies and stuff use. she loves it.
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 9:58, Reply)
you reckon AV installation will have less direct prick intereaction?
fucking hell, mate, have you ever been in a mid-to-high end HiFi shop?
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 9:59, Reply)
I mean AV as in corporate conferencing systems etc.
Since you're usually working in boardrooms and pulling out ceiling tiles, you pretty much get left alone.
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 10:06, Reply)
ours don't
inevitably it's getting dragged into urgent meetings and being screamed at to get it set up before the client arrives.
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 10:07, Reply)
Again, I said installation, not support.
Also, any cunt that screams at me gets short fucking shrift.
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 10:10, Reply)
best not apply to any law firms
partners are GOOD at screaming
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 10:11, Reply)
I shan't. I have some self respect.

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 10:15, Reply)
im fucken fine i guess, thanks for asking 'Windy Pig'
fucken class man. fuck that shit its just another box innit and ol reggie ent for boxes. if i call a cunt a cunt its cos ive done my fucken research (EG par exampler: theyre holding a fucken conference in the middle of the sauce isle ina asda and i just wanna get my fucken bottle of daddies and who the fuck parks a trolley sideways anyway you doss cunt, ergo i have studied their behaviour in relation to my getting my sauce and theyre bustin my balls man) i ent just read a pithy title in a fucken magazine and gone well how fucken clever no cunt ever thought of this before wait till i just go over here and ringfence my fucken opinions on shit

Altalt: yeah, i like the packets where you put the milk in the packet to measure it cos ive got one of them jugs that you need fucken bionic vision to see the markings and i can never find it in the morning anyway so the packets of porridge thing is a good idea in my opinion
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 9:49, Reply)
Coming at you like a stream of invective consciousness.
Wise words, Reg.
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 9:53, Reply)
it may be the first time i use the phrase
TL:DR
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 9:54, Reply)
you mean you ent read your sexual history?

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 9:58, Reply)
JUGS

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 10:00, Reply)
I like jugs.

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 10:02, Reply)
I cannot lie

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 10:05, Reply)
Ooh, yes please.

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 9:55, Reply)
alright Dr. Imble?

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 10:04, Reply)
YES!!!
You? Congrats on the job offers and that
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 10:06, Reply)
I'm feeling good,
thanks.
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 10:15, Reply)
I slept really well last night and now have coffee and toast so \o/
I last felt middle class prickish last night when I took a delivery of firewood for my wood burning stove

Alt:
No need at all. I was at Wembley in 1996 for Sunderland v Charlton play-off final and bumped into some old college mates sitting in front of me. When things started going tits, one of them shouted something racist and I pulled him on it. Call them a cunt yes, but not a black cunt. He initially started to laugh but I told him I'd speak to a steward and get him turfed out. He apologised and stopped. Bumped into him years later and he thanked me for it

AltAlt:
I love a bit of porridge
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 9:57, Reply)
Sporters. Hero of the racial harmony since 1996. Top work.

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 10:03, Reply)
Damn right
Richard Rufus was a cunt for scoring though
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 10:06, Reply)
alright

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 9:59, Reply)
Alright Daniel

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 10:11, Reply)
alright Rupert xx

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 10:20, Reply)
did u ever do a google image search using peoples names from bayta
i wouldnt fucken advise it is all im sayin
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 10:05, Reply)
Did you find anyone good? When I say good I mean hideous.

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 10:11, Reply)
well doc i don really know what anyone looks like so i carnt be sure if it is them
but one lead back to a share a picture of yourself thread from a few years ago before my time
b3ta.com/questions/offtopic/post1413741
but most of the pics have been removed by the look of it, probs for the best, and theres one i think of swiper on a date with some guy with glasses and a beard but i don know who that is
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 10:15, Reply)
Not bad thanks
I'm bemused by people with double-barrelled surnames who went to private schools who claim to be middle class. Fuck off posho.

Alt: I've been to a fair few, not seen much racism because West Brom fans are lovely. The only offensive chant I can remember directed at a black player was some bloke whose brother had just been banged up for murder, who got "Where's your brother gone, where's your brother gone? Far, far away..." all game.

Altalt: Too fiddly, I just get a sausage bap from the canteen.
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 10:06, Reply)
Sunderland had a player called Lee Howet, whose brother Steve played for Newcastle
His chant was;

Lee Howey, Lee Howey, Lee Howey
Your brother is a cunt

I once caught him singing it to himself in a pub in Sunderland
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 10:09, Reply)
A much larger problem at football matches:
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/story-19974973-detail/story.html
(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 10:10, Reply)
I dunno what's more terrifying: the pie-eating gurner, the man next to him, or the Shining Twins

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 10:11, Reply)
Terrible bullying of Nakers Chomondley-Smythe

(, Thu 24 Oct 2013, 10:09, Reply)

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