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Freddy Woo writes: "I once worked on an animation to help highlight the issues homeless people face in winter. The client was happy with the work, then a note came back that the ethnic mix of the characters were wrong. These were cartoon characters. They weren't meant to be ethnically anything, but we were forced to make one of them brown, at the cost of about 10k to the charity. This is how your donations are spent. Wisely as you can see."

How has PC affected you? (Please add your own tales - not five-year-old news stories cut-and-pasted from other websites)

(, Thu 22 Nov 2007, 10:20)
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Be anti-PC about yourself - its the only way to fight it
If a girl cracks onto me in a pub, I just tell the truth and love to watch their face as I slur, "Sorry love, I'm a bender." Of course, that makes the stupid bitches your instant best friend for the night, so it doesn't always work.

I did have an un-PC Christmas Day once, getting hideously stoned and eating Turkey twizzlers with my gay Muslim mate. Ah happy days.

Did I miss the point of this? Probably.
(, Mon 26 Nov 2007, 18:34, 1 reply)
There are places for political correctness, and places where it should be left behind,
pretty much any situation that's in the public eye dealing with folks in a non-friendly more professional way is the place to use a modicom of it, but any situation like close-knit workmates, friends or family probably isn't the place to worry about it, the trouble is many times the edges can get blurred, as that silly bitch that said Nigger on Big Brother learned a while back.

However, places where it definitely isn't a worry include between consenting adults in private, and any toilet wall graffiti.

A friend of mine told me this tale on the latter:

He was sat in a gents cubicle at work, and someone unknown had scrawled 'Muslims wear turbans!!' on the wall. This is, of course, incorrect, and my friend proceeded to correct this chaps error by adding the graffiti, 'No, Sikhs wear turbans,' then, as an after thought due to the fact that wasn't very funny, added, 'Muslims wear backpacks!'

Stop wincing and pretend this is a pub! ;)
(, Mon 26 Nov 2007, 18:28, Reply)
........it's ok, I'm taking it back!
(, Mon 26 Nov 2007, 18:05, 5 replies)
Getting one back for the good guys.
Back at Warwick University, in the early 90s, just like at many universities, there was Nelson Mandela bar. Now, at that time, I was very anti-PC and anti-leftie, and this Student Union habit of PC naming really annoyed me. Now, don't get me wrong, Mandela is an amazing statesman, and at that time, he had been elected President of South Africa. Great news for him, and South Africa.

I got together with the seemingly apolitical Union President, and pointed out that it wasn't really appropriate to have a bar named after a sitting president, and maybe if we renamed it, we would present a progressive image to the outside world. It was the bar where they showed all the sports, so why don't we name it after a sportsman? To my surprise, he agreed to second my motion, and we put a proposal to the UGM that the members vote on a possible list of new names. It was all nice and tasteful (apart from the guy that suggested naming it "Senna's Corner"), and suggestions were taken from the floor on the day.

Some trots decided that I was a racist, despite suggesting naming the bar after Brian Lara, who played for Warwickshire at the time. They put forward some sort of motion demanding that I be banned, or flogged or something. Amazingly, that failed to pass.

The day came, suggestions were made. My favourites were "Lara's Pad", "Senna's Bar" and "Lardoholics Place". What won? "Lynhams Lounge". It was democracy in action, and beautifully summed up the political apathy and studentiness of the time.

The deal was done, and the name was changed. We got a bit of coverage in the national press and on Radio 1 (I think), and my favourite bit of fallout was getting moaned at by the very nice, but very lefty General Secretary about the two hour haranguing he had from the South African embassy. The moustachioed frontman of BBC Sport didn't come to the official renaming.

I always swell with pride when I think of that. A tiny little reversal against the tide of Political Correctness.

As an Epilogue, about a year later, in my home town I was talking to a guy I had never met before, and who didn't know anything about me. The topic was political correctness. He mentioned that "you won't believe what they did at Warwick University - they renamed the Mandela bar after Des Lynham." My pride swelled a little more, but I didn't mention that it was I who had effectively changed the name. That would have spoiled the moment.
(, Mon 26 Nov 2007, 18:01, 1 reply)
General PC fuckwittedness.....
Not ENTIRELY on track of the question,but proof that bigotry and unPCness is often just a case of a stupid person not paying attention before they open their mouth.

I work in Spain and a few years ago an American man collared me complaining that the "whole town is full of racist KKK motherfuckers" and that the population were actually cheering them as they paraded through the town centre.

Easter is a very important festival in Spain(especially in the South)and by some strange,ancient quirk of fate,the believers wear a costume identical to that sported by the maniac cross burning Texas fools.

The livid American was stared/shouted at by a bunch of religious fanatics and narrowly missed a bottle that was thrown at him.By my catholic boyfriend.Along with the phrase "If you want to criticise our customs then at least learn about them first,you imbecile"

People would perhaps cause less offence if they took the time to think and ask before they shoot their big mouths off.Mind you,most Americans I´ve met are pushy buggers who think they rule the Universe.

Not very interesting,I know,but I´m bored...
(, Mon 26 Nov 2007, 17:51, Reply)
to be serious for a moment
Like some other posters, I feel the need to address the issue seriously. I often ask myself: "What IS racism?" I think the answer is quite simple: "It's me not getting that job because a darkie applied for it and the company needed to boost their diveristy statistics." I don't say that with any bitterness; I have no problem with DeJames Shazam getting the job so he can bring all his relatives over from Kenya and get them claiming benefits - that's his choice. I don't mind if he has no driving licence and is allowed to submit reports in poor English because nobody dare bring it up for fear of being called a racist. Nor am I bothered about him being clinically obese and needing a special lift to be installed just for him at such a prohibitive cost that four people had to laid off- we all know that black people are generally very good sportsmen to make up for genetically lower intelligence. So he's not at all typical in that sense.

I also think that religious tolerance is important. If someone wants to believe in some made-up god like Mohammed or Buddha, that's up to them. Even if that means men wearing dresses and beating women with sticks because they wear make-up or reveal their toenails. That's just cultural difference. Let them stone donkeys to death and execute their close relatives for some minor slight if that's what they believe - I won't stand in the way of that, nor forced marriage and incest. Everyone's different. But I won't have my children foced into voodoo rituals at school just because 70% of the kids there are from Haiti. One man's chicken sacrifice is another man's chicken dinner.

Which brings me to vegetarianism. Live and let live, I say. If they want to become anaemic and holier-than-thou sheep huggers with their tofu burgers and Quorn sausages, let them - no matter how absurd that may be. God gave us teeth for meat - but if they want to eat plants like some lower animal, who am I to stop them? Evolution will see who's right when they all drop dead.

The handicapped? I've got no problem with them. If they want to have no limbs, dribble a bit and possess the intelligence of a ping pong ball, I'm not going to object. That's their choice. Let them have their ramps and wheelchairs - that's only fair. But when I find that my family holiday is jeopardised by a quadriplegic pilot in my 747, it's time to stand up and speak. I'm all for diversity, but there are limits. I spent four hours trying to talk to a callcentre employee in a persistent vegetative state the other day and I must say the wheeze of her ventialtor became quite irritating after a while. Let her have a job - but let it be something more suitable... like acting as a weight to stop a tarpaulin blowing away in the wind. There are jobs enough for everyone.

Except Eastern Europeans, of course. They come over here with their carp and their pregnant women and claim benefits for every bloody thing. I've got nothing against people claiming benefits. That's their right. But when I see my neighbour Pawel coming home with a luxury yacht towed behind his Lamborghini, I have to ask how my taxes are being spent. He says he needs these things to persuade his schizophrenic mother that she is living in Monaco. I sympathise, I really do, but wouldn't it be better if they go back where they came from and live in crushing poverty? That's character building...
(, Mon 26 Nov 2007, 17:45, 14 replies)
Further Education Establishments!
I work for a Univiersity. ALL staff have to go on 'diversity & Disability Awareness' courses.

Was handed a bit of paper near the start with acceptable terms on we HAD to call people.

apparently i'm not a 'normal person' - I'm a 'Non-disabled person'

What the fuck? Are you serious? Apparently they were.

I mean - what the fuck?
(, Mon 26 Nov 2007, 17:30, Reply)
Drunken Racism
Ok, usually the sight of a pissed up saturday night punter shouting "Grrah! ffuckin PAKI!" at a kebab shop owner isn't the most pleasing.
This one occasion had 2 exceptions.

1. The slurred words were issuing from the mouth of my usually mild mannered friend, Sanjeet.

2. The kebab shop owner was turkish.
(, Mon 26 Nov 2007, 17:26, 1 reply)
Glasgow Council PC Brigade
Glasgow Cooncil have announced that once again this year we aren't having Christmas in Glasgow, this year it's "Winter Fest".

We've also had Winterval, and, Festivas in the past.

We are also having A traditional festive market where we can buy festive goods.

It's fucking Christmas not winter fest, I don't see the cunts renaming fucking Ramadan.

(, Mon 26 Nov 2007, 17:20, 8 replies)
It's probably just me...

but does anybody else think it's a bit odd when, in boxing, a black guy is fighting a white guy, and they are described by the colour of their shorts? Like it's wrong to notice their skin colour or easier to spot the shorts then the colour of the whole of their bodies?

I mean...of course I can understand the logic when there are two white guys or two black guys boxing...

oh I don't know

*continues drinking*
(, Mon 26 Nov 2007, 16:24, 11 replies)
Black Rob
We had a mate, via a mate, at Uni called black Rob. Now this was Norwich in the mid 90's and honest to god there was only one black person in the city whom wasn't a curry restauranteur or waiting staff. Now its not a big city, and the Uni only had a about 5000 students.

Even he used to say on the phone " Its me Rob" "rob who?" "You know, black Rob" "Aaaah. Hi mate ......"

I bet we would get chucked of the Union bar for that these days. The Non-smoking bar was called Winnies - as in Mandela. It was ok to be a provocative conflict mongering terrorist but actually to call someone by their own nickname could have ended your degree right there.

Crazy times. I would not have objected to Pink Bazza, although i am not gay. Or even snowflake. I only object to c*nt. Even though i can be one.
(, Mon 26 Nov 2007, 16:12, 1 reply)
Love this form...
though never the situations in which it's used:-

In NO particular order.....


A. White – British W1
B. White – Irish W2
C. Any Other White Background W3

D. White and Black Caribbean M1
E. White and Black African M2
F. White and Asian M3
G. Any Other Mixed Background M9

H. Asian - Indian A1
I. Asian - Pakistan A2
J. Asian – Bangladeshi A3
K. Any other Asian Background A9

L. Black – Caribbean B1
M. Black – African B2
N. Any other Black Background B9

O. Chinese O1
P. Any Other Ethnic Group O2


From www.southyorks.gov.uk/embedded_object.asp?docid=3063&doclib - Restricted, apparently

I'm an M3, or "Paki"* in normal speak, though I've been called everything from chinky to wop. I sometimes say Other and Inuit for comedy/annoying effect, and this is without bringing my Iranian or Irish family links into the picture.

*I don't mind the word as a term of description, and it's pathetic used as a term of abuse - I'm proud of both sides of my heritage, and my swarthy good looks! I'm fed up of hearing people say six foot, male, dark, curly hair, dark complexion, big..hands... What if we couldn't say ginger or cabbage to describe people or vegetables - call a spade a spade I say - It's not the word, it's the intention behind it.

Most pointless bit of paper ever - not even absorbent..bah!
(, Mon 26 Nov 2007, 15:52, Reply)
PC isn't new...
In fact these trends to change what is considered aceptable to what is considered inappropriate have been around for a long time. Please read the link below on the 'Euphemism Treadmill'.


Sorry to be educational. But in the meantime try not to be so sensitive, most words start out 'OK' and it is just people's perception of them that change. Twats.
(, Mon 26 Nov 2007, 15:48, 1 reply)
Dunno if anyone's mentioned this
but they deserve a mention. This is how fucked up Britain is.

We have banned "Tom and Jerry"

Not the new and utterly crap "cat and mouse buddies on adventures", oh no no no no. They banned the good old classic ones, just in case anyone replicates violence in the home.

PC'ing motherfuckers, no wonder this country is going to the dogs.
(, Mon 26 Nov 2007, 15:06, 9 replies)
My girlfriend's mixed race
... and that's what I'd call her. She doesn't call herself that: she calls herself "coloured". That's been non-PC for longer than I've known her so I can't bring myself to say it.

She calls herself "coloured" because she's from South Africa and that's what she's called there. She's not black. She's not white. She's coloured, and she's happy with that. I just can't bring myself to say it.

Her whole family's coloured and that's what they call themselves. (Except one uncle who was quite pale and managed [during apartheid] to get himself reclassified white by having his nose measured and other crazy stuff.) Even though they all say it and have no problem with it, I wince every time I hear it and... I just can't bring myself to say it.

So thanks, PC folks! Even though I'm sufficiently broad-minded to overcome my inbred Somerset roots and fall completely in love with someone a different colour to myself, I just can't bring myself to call her what she calls herself.

(, Mon 26 Nov 2007, 14:53, 5 replies)
Not strictly, but . . .
I had an email from someone at the University Hospital of South Manchester NHS Foundation Trust. (Whatever that is.)

Guess what was at the bottom of the email?

A reminder not to print unless necessary? Nope.

A message of greeting and christmas cheer? Get real.

It said, and I quote:

"Please note the Trust has a smoke free environment policy for staff, patients and visitors. This includes buildings, grounds and car parks."

That's it. There's no other warnings or reminders, just this guff about smoking. I'm not even visiting the place. I hadn't even heard of the place until today. Why do they feel the need to mention this in ALL of their emails?

And, while we're on the subject, WHY can't I smoke on the "grounds"? It's really coming to something when smoking outdoors isn't enough, you have to smoke "off the grounds". I can't even smoke in the fucking car park? Puh-leese.

It just goes to show what too much reliance on political correctness gets you. People (by which I mean nasty, corporate, jobsworth, middle-management droids) spend so much of their time in a lather about what they can't say and do in case they offend someone, that when they get the chance to be nasty they really embrace it! Smokers, unfortunately, fit the ever dwindling profile of "people it's ok to victimise".

Sorry, this is rant. And it's not funny.

Fuck it, i'm going for a fag.

*mumble, mumble*
(, Mon 26 Nov 2007, 14:44, 12 replies)
Not gay enough
My best mate (I'll call him Harry)is gay, but often provokes the reaction "well, if you hadn't said anything I would never have known", basically cos he doesn't mince about, likes 'proper' music, and is into battleships and war.

Anyway, a mate of his (let's say his name's Brian) who is a camp as Christmas, was very excited cos Kylie was playing G.A.Y, but they were limiting it to two tickets per person, and he needed four. Knowing that Harry wasn't in the least bit interested he asked him to go with him to the Astoria to pick up the required number of tickets (two each).

They queue for two hours, Brian picks up his tickets no problem, then harry steps up.

"Sorry mate. This is a gay club"
"yeah, I know. I come here a lot."
"No. No tickets for you. NEXT!"
"hang on a minute..."
"You're not gay. No tickets. NEXT!"

Now, Harry was slightly put out by this. Admittedly, he doesn't dress or act like a stereotypical queen, but he can suck a cock with the best of them (so he says), so what exactly was he suppossed to do to persuade the ticket manhe was gay?

After much pleading from himself and Brian, and the threat of a huge bouncer throweing him into the gutter, they conceded defeat, and Brian had to make other arrangements for his other tickets.

Harry ranted about it for hours, mainly to the tune of "fucking mincing queens get on my fucking tits".
(, Mon 26 Nov 2007, 14:37, 3 replies)
I like this challenge, it's what I've always thought was the core of B3ta, complete defiance of social taboo

So I would like to draw more attention to the deliberately thunder-shittingly stereotypical cartoon Minoriteam


Characters include:
Racist Frankenstein
The White Shadow
(, Mon 26 Nov 2007, 14:28, 1 reply)
good idea gone bad
most people I know regard PC as a good idea that's been hijacked by idiots with too little to do in their tiny lives.
I've seen up close the ultimate degree of racism in Bosnia in the 90's, "Ethnic Cleansing" the cuddly name for "Holocaust"
Much like health and safety. We (the army) have been told we can't use metal polish on our bayonets as "this may result in blood poisoning and could be considered as a chemical weapon" oh and ramming an eight inch blade through someone's chest is considered advantageous to their health is it??
hope that's opened up a nice off topic but.... line of posts!!
(, Mon 26 Nov 2007, 14:25, 2 replies)
Teddy Teddy Burning Bright who has set your ears alight??
Look at this fucking load of wank from today

Teacher Arrested Over Teddy Name
Updated:13:37, Monday November 26, 2007

A British teacher has been arrested in Sudan for letting children name a teddy bear Mohammed.

School children named teddy bear. Gillian Gibbons, 54, from Liverpool, was detained on Sunday on suspicion of insulting Islam's prophet.

The teacher let her class of seven year olds choose the name as part of a school project.

A Foreign Office spokeswoman said: "We can confirm a British national was arrested by police in Sudan yesterday.

"We are providing consular assistance"

Good job the little lad called Nick Griffin suggestion of "FUCKING TERRORIST PLANE FLYING SUICIDE BOMBING FURRY CUNT HOOK" wasn't taken up.

Also - didnt think they had schools in Sudan. Geldof's video's never shown them.

Thieving cunts
(, Mon 26 Nov 2007, 14:08, 1 reply)
Ooh, ooh, I've thought of another
Does anyone remember when the Bash Street Kids went all odd during the early 90's? Fatty was put on a diet, Plug had beauty treatment, Smiffy was given extra lessons, they all had behavioural support etc etc. Basically, it was ruined, until people wrote in wanting to know what the fuck they'd done to the comic.

It was all changed back and normality was resumed.
(, Mon 26 Nov 2007, 14:00, 4 replies)
Being fair to people is rubbish
I recently read in a newspaper about how schools were being forced to rename 'Baa Baa Black Sheep' to 'Baa Baa Rainbow Sheep', as it could be construed as racist. Political correctness gone mad, I tell you.

Oh wait, hang on - could it be that the usage of the word 'black' was never outlawed in said nursery rhyme, but that 'rainbow', along with 'green', 'happy', 'puzzled', etc, were simply introduced to help expand schoolchildren's vocabulary? And could it be possible that the paper made the whole bleeding thing up, in the same it had when it reported exactly the same story back in the 80s and 90s?

Yes. Yes, it could.

Fucking Daily Mail wankers.
(, Mon 26 Nov 2007, 13:57, Reply)
At a football match I met a pal of a pal who wasn't the sharpest person I have ever met. Ipso facto he had not found a job after leaving school and had instead gone to police training college.

He related how they had had training in racism that week. The person in charge had asked the class to write down all the racist words they could think of for black people.

Proudly he announced "It was great - I was top of the class with most words....."
(, Mon 26 Nov 2007, 13:20, 2 replies)
Dwarf, not 'Little Person'...
I know a chap called Graham who is a professional Dwarf. That's right, you can make a living off it, stage shows like panto, films, kids shows, all need the occasional dwarf. He lives an interesting life, he knows celebs, he tells many an interesting tale of his worklife and the wrap parties and such, and it's hard to think of him as 'disadvantaged'.

Through knowing him I have learned a few interesting things: The difference between a dwarf and a midget is a midget is all in proportion, a dwarf isn't, they have the big head small arms thing going on, and this is at times genuinely a disability, there are many things that can't be done, basically try and imagine doing all your normal everyday stuff if you were still 4 years old, can you reach those pedals, that yale lock, that postbox? And you really do need some kind of transport, little legs make short distances into a marathon!

Anyway, what I want to talk about here is the recent (I think American sourced) PC term 'little people', as heard when anyone talks about The Wizard Of Oz on TV shows for example, and basically this guy hates that, he is stead-fastedly a dwarf and proud of it, he makes a living out if it FFS why would he wish to 'reject' it? So he gets really annoyed when anyone uses it in any other context than talking of a large group of both dwarfs and midgets, as he says, 'I'm not a fecking leprechaun!!'

I don't know who decides terms like this are 'ist' and must be changed, but I often feel as the primary reason is meant to be to avoid offence to the subject, aren't a lot of these madder pissy little PC-isms, like calling a blackboard a chalkboard, more to do with making the middle class do gooders feel warm and smug at being 'morally superior' rather than actually helping any of those who are 'disadvantaged' in their eyes? Isn't that just a tad patronising and more indicative of their prejudices anyway? Maybe we should just take each individual as an individual, maybe they'd rather be treated as such than a generalisation of others' distant perceptions of 'their kind'?

Or am I being a bit gay...? ;)
(, Mon 26 Nov 2007, 13:18, 8 replies)
Living in Portsmouth
back in the 80s, and we always used to get our fruit and veg from the market on a Saturday. At the time my parents were doing the honourable lefty thing and boycotting Cape fruits because of Nelson Mandela's treatment at the hand sof his own country...

So, we're at the market, Dad's getting various bits and bobs and the market lady tries to give him some Cape apples. "Oh, no thanks, I'll have some of those ones instead, we don't eat South African apples"

To which the bloke in the queue behind us pipes up, in a very well spoken accent, "Oh yes I know! It's the thought of those horrible black hands all over them isn't it!"

(, Mon 26 Nov 2007, 13:09, 3 replies)
My gran
Has taken approximately 25 years of her 97 on this earth to get over long-ingrained views.
However, there was that difficult middle period, where PC had started to step into her life but she wasn't yet sure how to apply it properly. Strange, warped compliments were formed instead.
To the brummie-accented bloke in the Chinese restaurant: "You speak very good English"
About her nursing help: "Well, they [black people] make very good nurses. All that slavery experience"
To a friend who couldn't have children: "You wouldn't want them anyway. They ruin your life"
To a gay friend of our family: "Such a waste of a man, aren't you? You'd make a lovely husband"
I almost wish she HADN'T developed a conscience. You were always guaranteed a good, inappropriate giggle of an otherwise dull evening.
(, Mon 26 Nov 2007, 13:08, 2 replies)
Back in my school days
I think it was Primary 5 or 6 and we some how (this still boggles my mind) got two student teachers. we ended up with them for quite a while, one was not exactly attractive but she was no pile of rhino shit and the other way really quite attractive but more uptight than even the strongest conservative.

So it gets to christmas time once again and we were all asked to bring in music for the chrismas party (primary year 1 - 7 got a day for their own christmas party) so the week before said day was to arrive I had a few frinds round and we we're going through our tapes and I happened to did out a copy of "the very best of Ray Stevens" now it was full of funny songs (not all of them PC) but anyone who had any ethnic variety (all 2 of them) had heard the tape many times before and enjoyed it. So I took the tape to the christmas party.

On revealing it to the teachers they were quite keen to put it on until little miss tighter than a mousies lug gets a hold of the cover and sees one of the song is called "Ahab the Arab" and declaires that the tape can't be played because it could be seen as being racist.

Now the only kid who could have taken any reall offence to it told her to shut up and play it coz he liked it. He was very quickly sent home with a letter of complaint to his parents. Suffice to say most of us were a bit pissed of and started moaning that she was ruining our christmas party.

Most of the parents of the kids I knew got wind of the events that transpired on that day and the barrage of complaints that were launched againt the student teacher was mind boggling. Some of the comments written in those letters of complaint still make me laugh.

She was very quickly dismissed from the school and never seen again (thankfully) by any of the kids.

I'm just glad she read the top bit of the song list, had she gotten any further "Bridget the Midget" might have made her explode. Personally I think she had a grudge against me because I tried to be nice to everyone, I have since changed my way and am only nice to people who deserve it.

Length? about 16 years of bitterness because of that.
(, Mon 26 Nov 2007, 12:58, Reply)
Following on from Pooflake's post about Turtle Power, anyone remember the animated spin-off of the Ghostbusters film, "The Real Ghostbusters"?

What a cracking cartoon. But then, they did a spin-off of that, called "Extreme Ghostbusters".

Call me old-fashioned, but I would've thought that busting ghosts would have been exempt from the Disability Discrimination Act.

As usual, Wikipedia says it best:

Some Ghostbusters fans often criticize the show for its new graphic style and also for abruptly replacing the original Ghostbusters with a new team. Other detractors of Extreme Ghostbusters have criticized the show for "pushing political correctness" due to how diverse the new team members (a black person, a latino person, a female, and a disabled person) were.
(, Mon 26 Nov 2007, 12:57, 2 replies)

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