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Look I gave you an excellent link and a business opportunity, I can't do all the work

(, Fri 11 Aug 2017, 17:03, archived)
the link was much appreciated,
thank you. they are basically just miniature toilet roll holders though, aren't they.
(, Fri 11 Aug 2017, 17:07, archived)
But which came first

(, Fri 11 Aug 2017, 17:16, archived)
trying to find out this not totally boring fact as we speak

(, Fri 11 Aug 2017, 17:18, archived)
Spring bars must have been invented before but just not for watches

(, Fri 11 Aug 2017, 17:33, archived)
yeah the article says as much,
trying to find the earliest use on a toilet roll holder though, i can find plenty of pictures of Art Deco style ones but no definite dates on anything.

(also some of them turn out to be modern reproductions where the spring-loaded spindle is a modern addition to the design)
(, Fri 11 Aug 2017, 17:52, archived)
I must admit I read it a while ago , I thought you'd enjoy the silliness

(, Fri 11 Aug 2017, 18:06, archived)