we would love toBut I think it's got to a point that the Irish, aren't desperate to have the likes of Ian Paisley in their country either
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Pootle,
Mon 6 Oct 2003, 17:30,
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I don't think that's true really.Most Irish Catholics and Protestants would be happy with any democratic rule. It's only the *tiny* minority who see either (a) the British as an occupying army in N.I. or (b) the people in N.I. as part of Britain (in the same way the Scotts are).
To blindly talk about Ireland (as a whole) being 'their' country is to completely fail to understand any of the historical issues around it. Southern Ireland (Eire) is Irish. Everybody accepts that and not even the most staunch of Loyalists would think of trying to take over the entire area.
N.I. on the other hand has been under British control for many years and a large number of the people there consider themselves British. British by birth. They consider that their parents and grandparents were British. A small minority of these people take violent issue with claims that N.I. belongs to the Irish (in the same way the a small number of the N.I. Catholics take issue with the notion that it belongs to Britain).
It's a really fucked up situation, but one thing it ain't is clear or obvious.
(To blindly talk about Ireland (as a whole) being 'their' country is to completely fail to understand any of the historical issues around it. Southern Ireland (Eire) is Irish. Everybody accepts that and not even the most staunch of Loyalists would think of trying to take over the entire area.
N.I. on the other hand has been under British control for many years and a large number of the people there consider themselves British. British by birth. They consider that their parents and grandparents were British. A small minority of these people take violent issue with claims that N.I. belongs to the Irish (in the same way the a small number of the N.I. Catholics take issue with the notion that it belongs to Britain).
It's a really fucked up situation, but one thing it ain't is clear or obvious.
Hagbard ... it's been a long time.,
Mon 6 Oct 2003, 18:08,
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