Improve America's image?
This'd be a start



No doubt beaten to it by that Shirley Bindun bint. Bloody woman gets everywhere

From the Rebrand America challenge. See all 281 entries (closed)

( shrinking man We've got lumps of it round the back, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 19:26, archived)

I wish I had
a typewriter pencil.
(kaibosh, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 19:27, archived)

Heh heh.
All government documents should look like this.
( Sexy Picard 2000, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 19:27, archived)

that
is very true
( olivier8 (euroloon), Thu 22 Sep 2005, 19:29, archived)

I admire him for not signing.

(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 19:28, archived)

surely you don't admire him for basically denying that the greenhouse effect exists
though?
( Mushroom, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 19:30, archived)

Depends what you mean.
There is such an effect, but it's not happening. It's a mixture of scam and myth. And was invented by Maggie Thatcher, curiously.
(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 19:33, archived)

I support this man

( Mykeyboy A massive, salty filing cabinet, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 19:35, archived)

heheheheh

( Sexy Picard 2000, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 19:35, archived)

Having said that, if we caused it to happen, causing it wouldn't be a bad thing.
Burning fuel is progress. Shutting down industry isn't the way to combat any climate change that actually occurs.
I thought Bush was in favour of carbon sinks, anyway, so presumably he does believe the greenhouse effect is happening. Unless he's just given in to pressure.
(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 19:38, archived)

I like the way you think.

( Sexy Picard 2000, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 19:40, archived)

I like to think you meant that.

(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 19:46, archived)

I think that you meant that I like to think it.

( Sexy Picard 2000, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 19:48, archived)

Excellent!
Everybody's happy.
(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 19:49, archived)

...boggles the mind....
(kaibosh, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 19:41, archived)

I thought...
...the general idea now was that global warming did exist and was happening, but that they were arguing about the cause - man made or natural warming.

Which is a stupid argument, as it's entirely sensible to cut down on nasty chemical emissions and energy usage for so many other reasons than the climate :(
(Sartori is moving to Canada, eh?, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 19:39, archived)

^This^

( shrinking man We've got lumps of it round the back, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 19:41, archived)

aye

(kaibosh, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 19:43, archived)

Global warming is different from the greenhouse effect.
Global temperatures wander all over the place over hundreds or thousands of years.
Also, I like energy usage. Life itself is energy usage. Cutting down on energy usage is like sawing your legs off, or at least wrapping them up in some complex machinery to make them more efficient but less useful.
(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 19:43, archived)

True...
...energy's there to be used. But why use more than you need to, when some sources of it are finite? We'll never be sure if the greenhouse effect is real, if all the stuff we emit is harmful, etc. But given the choice of possibly fucking everything up forever or being a bit careful and thinking about what we do with stuff, my choice would be the latter.
(Sartori is moving to Canada, eh?, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 19:53, archived)

"Being careful and thinking" cuts both ways.
We could be suspicious of the dubious science and politics of climate change, instead of being suspicious that the world is getting hotter. And as for "using more than we need to", there's no end to the lengths we could go to to use energy more efficiently; but maximising the efficiency of energy use isn't most efficient way to get on with life and do the things we really enjoy. It's a pointless goal. We should have as much energy efficiency as is useful, and no more.
Every time there's a natural disaster, even an earthquake, you'll hear people blaming it on climate change. "God is man's attempt to explain the weather," goes an old bit of graffiti, and it seems to me that global warming has replaced god in this function. People don't seem to get the idea that weather is spontaneous and changable. And I could worry you with any number of made-up scare stories, but that doesn't mean the most prudent thing for you to do would be to wear a tin-foil hat just in case I'm right.
(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 19:59, archived)

this^^
thought I was the only one
( Schrodinger, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 20:28, archived)

yes...
...but no one will face up to the fact that nuclear power is the only sensible option, at least until governments pay for some proper research into new energy supplies (ha!). Plus it's an oft forgotten fact that Clinton didn't sign up to Kyoto either when he had the chance.
( the wub - guide onion for the blind, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 20:12, archived)

It wouldn't be good for the US
to sign the Kyoto treaty.
(Hairy Midget, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 20:14, archived)

There's still masses of untapped oil all around the world
like in venezuela and alaska.
(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 20:14, archived)

"That's it! We'll invade Alaska!"
"Mr President, Alaska is already part of the US"
"Say wha'?"
( the wub - guide onion for the blind, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 20:27, archived)

Personally
I haven't found anything to admire about him. Reminds me of Reagan, gives you the impression that he hasn't got a clue what's going on half the time. Just MHO you understand, each to their own and all that.
( shrinking man We've got lumps of it round the back, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 19:35, archived)

Well
yeah. But that's good enough for me.
(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 19:46, archived)