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# Look! It's the dad from Smallville!
(I helped save b3ta! kinks rock over London, rock on Chicago, Sun 7 Oct 2007, 0:16, archived)
# he's dead too

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(I helped save b3ta! lo, the Greebo Warrior - Est. 2002, Sun 7 Oct 2007, 0:47, archived)