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[challenge entry] Asimo bin Laden

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(I helped save b3ta! dunk3d, Thu 21 Aug 2008, 16:02, archived)
# Pffft :D
More robots should have beards. Fact.
(I helped save b3ta! Walrus Man Think hippy thoughts, Thu 21 Aug 2008, 16:04, archived)
# TJ: The continuing fuckup saga.
I have emailed myself some ai files that I want to work on from this machine.

Illustrator tells me they are 'damaged and cannot be repaired'

Can anyone offer any explantion as to what this 'damage' is and how to make it go away.

The files were backed up, but all sets of them appear to have the same problems.
(I helped save b3ta! WormuIus, Thu 21 Aug 2008, 16:08, archived)
# same version of Illustrator opening them as did the closing?
if so sounds like a file corruption (as in just knackered data on the hard disk)
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Thu 21 Aug 2008, 16:12, archived)
# Did you not have this problem yesterday?
Can't help I'm afraid.

TJ your TJ - Further to my very nerdy Bladerunner post earlier, do we think genetically engineered humans with artificial personalities qualify as 'Robots'?

Wikipedia definitions are inconclusive on the subject and I'd be glad of b3ta's input.

kthxbai ;)

EDIT ooo where is pourhommeproductions when you need him? He'd be loving this nerdiness on b3ta!
(I helped save b3ta! barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!, Thu 21 Aug 2008, 16:12, archived)
# I would say no
because they're still flesh, aren't they? I don't know what they'd be though, except replicants.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Thu 21 Aug 2008, 16:14, archived)
# True, but most of the definitions of robots don't specify materials, just 'artificially created'
can you tell I've had enough of w*rk for today!
(I helped save b3ta! barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!, Thu 21 Aug 2008, 16:17, archived)
# I just tend to associate robots more with mechanical function than
organic, regardless of the creation of the organic materials. But then that's just my OPINION, it's not scientific fact and I know shit all about it.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Thu 21 Aug 2008, 16:19, archived)
# Neither do I
I just like a good irrelevant debate on slooooow Thursday afternoons :)
(I helped save b3ta! barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!, Thu 21 Aug 2008, 16:20, archived)
# Well that's my two pence.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Thu 21 Aug 2008, 16:22, archived)
# ...and a fine tuppence it is.
(I helped save b3ta! barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!, Thu 21 Aug 2008, 16:23, archived)
# That's right. Good boy.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Thu 21 Aug 2008, 16:25, archived)
# It's an interesting question.
If you were to replace a single neuron in your brain with an electronic device that performs exactly the same function, would you become a robot?
What if you replaced two neurons? Or ten? Or half of them?
(I helped save b3ta! Walrus Man Think hippy thoughts, Thu 21 Aug 2008, 16:15, archived)
# We're not necessarily talking electronic devices here...
But if you were grown in a vat and had an artificial personality implanted, however sophisticate, shirley you'd be just as much of a robot as somthing with an equivalent personality that was welded together out of scrap iron?
(I helped save b3ta! barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!, Thu 21 Aug 2008, 16:19, archived)
# True.
But how would you implant an artificial personality in a human brain? Either you use electronic components, or you re-wire the brain in the same way that you might reprogram a computer.
Brains and computers are essentially both input-output machines. They both use logic and reasoning, they both have the ability to form memories and adapt their future actions based on what they have learned, and the only real differences between them are to do with what they are made out of.
The concept of a personality is simply the culmination of the experiences a person has been exposed to during their lifetime. This is similar to how the way a computer works is based on what it has been programmed to do. So if you act in a certain way toward another human being, and they begin to think and act differently as a result, aren't you essentially reprogramming them?

And now I've exhausted pretty much everything I learned in AS philosophy :D
(I helped save b3ta! Walrus Man Think hippy thoughts, Thu 21 Aug 2008, 16:30, archived)
# Hmmm... Deep...
I guess the differential would be that the human would have had self-determination and free will since birth, allowing it to form its own stimulus-response pathways as it goes along, whereas the robot, of whatever type, would have a predetermined set of experiences built in to enable and predispose it to fulfil a desired function. From there on in it may be able to evolve and develop as an 'individual', but perhaps it is the initial pre-programming that would be the defining feature as to whether it is a lifeform in its own right, or a robot.

Didn't even do AS philosophy ;)

I think on that note, home tiem!
(I helped save b3ta! barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!, Thu 21 Aug 2008, 16:39, archived)
# *Strokes beard*
This is a good pub discussion.
(I helped save b3ta! Walrus Man Think hippy thoughts, Thu 21 Aug 2008, 16:42, archived)
# Perhaps your computer is full of ants?
(I helped save b3ta! Walrus Man Think hippy thoughts, Thu 21 Aug 2008, 16:13, archived)