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[challenge entry] Revenge of the hoax

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(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 21:35, archived)
# I read that to the tune of Mark Morrison's "Return of the Mack"
and now have that stuck in my head.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 21:47, archived)
# I think you'll find that invisible means that you can't see them at all, even with the right equipment, as they do not reflect light in such a way that an imaging device/organ can recognise them.
My microscopic plums are perfectly visible, as long as you have a microscope. Microscopic is not invisible.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:23, archived)
# I've read through your arguments and can only think that you're mistaking invisible with not-visible.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:25, archived)
# I can only wonder what you think "invisible" means, if not "not visible".
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:27, archived)
# Is it visible? No? Then it's invisible.
Is it visible? Yes? Then it's visible.

Circumstances are irrelevant. Is it visible with [specific equipment]? Yes? Then it's visible with [specific equipment]. Is it visible without [specific equipment]? No? Then it's invisible without [specific equipment].
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:30, archived)
# I think you'll find that context is all that is relevant.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:31, archived)
# I think you just proved my point: context is all that is relevant.
Is it visible? Then it's visible. Is it not visible? Then it's invisible.

I said that circumstances were irrelevant, not context. Cute attempt at deflection though.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:36, archived)
# Circumstances ARE context.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:37, archived)
# Not if you can't see them.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:38, archived)
# don't rise to it al
he once tried to argue that water wasn't wet
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:32, archived)
# this is why we can't have nice things
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:33, archived)
# It isn't.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:34, archived)
# God, ghosts
and the soul are invisible. Everything else isn't.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:30, archived)
#
invisible is not the same as pretend
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:31, archived)
# No; but
they share ground.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:34, archived)
# Invisible means you should be able to see it, but can't.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:30, archived)
# For example.
I'm in Bolton. I can't see Mount Everest. Mount Everest is not visible.
I'm in Bolton. I can't see Mount Everest. Mount Everest is not invisible.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:33, archived)
# This would be because Mt Everest is microscopic.
From Bolton at any rate.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:41, archived)
# Mount Everest is invisible from Bolton.
We're just going in circles now, let's all agree to study the dictionary for an hour tomorrow before we log on to b3ta again.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:41, archived)
# I'm still stuck
on Aaardvark :(
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:43, archived)
# I think we should be focusing on The invisable man
seeing the terror he managed to unleash upon us.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:44, archived)
# "should"?
Hahahaha, fucking hell.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:36, archived)
# Yes, should. See (Everest) above.
Whether something is invisible or not is entirely subjective on the circumstances of the observer.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:37, archived)
# Exactly. Something can be invisible
simply because you don't happen to be looking at it.
Archimedes never had this problem. His science only required him to see to the end of his bath and anyway he wore contacts.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:48, archived)
# If a tree falls in the woods
and no-one is there to hear it, does it make a noise? Yes.
If you can't see something, does that mean it is invisable? No.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:53, archived)
# If I can't see it it's not necessarily invisible.
It would need a concensus.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 23:05, archived)
# You appear to be proving my point there.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:51, archived)
# Well you appear to be proving my point there, Mr Unsubstantiated Claim.
Simply put:
Invisible is an active attribute, there is something about the object which is making it invisible. It is the object's fault you can't see it. Whereas being not visible, is completely passive, meaning you're not looking hard enough. It's your fault you can't see it.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:57, archived)
# So let's see, could the word invisible
have more than one meaning? I know it's radical but give it a chance.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 23:10, archived)
# Nice :)
What kind of sub is that?

Also:
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 21:52, archived)
# Thanks!
It's the "Willhelm Bauer" a German XXI class submarine, according to the revell website where I stole it from
(, Wed 18 Apr 2012, 7:10, archived)
# Fish eagle diversifies.
and click.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:06, archived)
# now all he needs is a can opener.
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:14, archived)
# Don't roc the boat
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 22:21, archived)
# *chortles*
(, Wed 18 Apr 2012, 7:08, archived)