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# problem is
you use so much energy seperating the hydrogen from the oxygen it kind of defeats the purpose.

(, Mon 27 Oct 2003, 12:13, archived)
# there's actually loads of reactions
that give out hydrogen as a result, there has to be a fairly clean one that could be done on an industrial scale. something along the lines of acid + metal -> salt + hydrogen could be used, probably.
(, Mon 27 Oct 2003, 12:15, archived)
# But then you still need to produce the acid
(which must require energy because it is not a naturally stable compound).

Essentially water sits at the bottom of the energy well for many reactions. We can't expect to split it out into reactive components (which are much higher up the well) without the input of an appropriate amount of energy.

The *only* real source of energy on this planet is the sun. Coal and oil are just caches of the sun's energy from a long time ago. Geothermal energy comes from gravitational forces. Nuclear energy exists due to the turbulent formation of the sun and our solar system.
(, Mon 27 Oct 2003, 12:28, archived)