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This is a normal post For those of us not familiar with cartoons,
The highlighted line, x+y=11, is helpful.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sun 21 Dec 2014, 20:39, , Reply)
This is a normal post Paul Dakar?

(Spin Its a thing., Sun 21 Dec 2014, 21:03, , Reply)
This is a normal post Are you taking the origin as the bottom left?
Only I don't think the author is. I think his is the top left, in which case x=y is the diagonal you want.
 (I helped save b3ta! wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Sun 21 Dec 2014, 21:55, , Reply)
This is a normal post Silly man.
the origin can only ever be where the X axis intersects the Y axis. I got a B in my maths GCSE I'll have you know, and I'm so old I took AO maths, and reached the dizzy heights of a C grade. And anyway, your theory would render the line X=-Y
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sun 21 Dec 2014, 22:38, , Reply)
This is a normal post So what's the sign convention?
Is the Y axis positive up or down?
 (I helped save b3ta! wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Sun 21 Dec 2014, 22:44, , Reply)
This is a normal post FFS
see my edit above. The convention is the origin is zero. Going west is negative, as is going south. This is why Devon is so shit.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sun 21 Dec 2014, 22:50, , Reply)
This is a normal post Sign conventions for maps are interesting
and I've had some fun with them in the past, but they're hardly relevant here.


I'll refute your argument on two grounds:

1. In most languages you start reading from the top left corner of a page. Thus an origin in this position is the most sensible for a web page, where it's not guaranteed that the entire image will be visible at once, and the top left corner will be the first part to be displayed. Your proposal means that I have to scroll to the bottom of the page to find the origin.

2. In order for your proposal to be valid you have to assume that "Bill Watterson" is assigned a value of 2 on the X axis, but 9 on the Y axis. My proposal suggests that it holds the same value on both.


Which seems more logical?
 (I helped save b3ta! wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Sun 21 Dec 2014, 23:15, , Reply)
This is a normal post You are probably a nice chap.
But if you get on my ship and get anywhere NEAR a map.
I will smack over the head with the biggest spanner I can find in the engine room.
Mind you, you'll have time to run, it takes three people and a joist to move it.
 (smellysamlyingcable Seaman on, Sun 21 Dec 2014, 23:29, , Reply)
This is a normal post On a ship?
No bloody chance.
 (I helped save b3ta! wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Sun 21 Dec 2014, 23:37, , Reply)
This is a normal post Hmmmm.
Maths is a universal language, free from the constraint of starting to read from the top left corner of a page, something that is not even common to all languages. A graph is not a language but an attempt to envision information in a manner that bypasses the need for linguistic interpretation. It is a pictorial representation of data that is not in any way literal, but the closest thing possible to an objective representation of data. If the graph is inaccurate, this is not the fault of said pictorial representation, but the fault of inaccurate data employed to draw the graph. Graphs cannot lie, data can. In order for this to be true, we must expect that the laws of maths are undisputed, which is hardly a controversial assertion, and not open to interpretation. The same cannot be said of language.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Mon 22 Dec 2014, 0:08, , Reply)
This is a normal post *sigh*
Refuted thus:

Excel spreadsheet.
 (I helped save b3ta! wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Mon 22 Dec 2014, 7:13, , Reply)
This is a normal post yeah?
Universal XY plane.
Used by anybody with a vector to fondle.
Normally you put your O (for Origin not zerO) smack in the middle.
Or wherever it's the easiest to work with.

Excel is a program, not a convention, that starts where it wants.
However, advertising always starts with the "reading" from the top left.
So you are a advertiser at heart.
So you will burn in hell.
 (smellysamlyingcable Seaman on, Mon 22 Dec 2014, 8:32, , Reply)
This is a normal post 'ning smelly.
The reason I mentioned Excel is because we're not dealing with graphs, charts, vectors or maps here. The link way, way back at the top of this thread shows tabulated data, i.e. rows and columns.

Anyway, I think this discussion has gone on far too long already so that's where I'm going to leave it.
 (I helped save b3ta! wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Mon 22 Dec 2014, 9:17, , Reply)
This is a normal post Pussy!
Come here and fight!

Don't leave me here all alone, it's full of rednecks
 (smellysamlyingcable Seaman on, Mon 22 Dec 2014, 9:24, , Reply)
This is a normal post but isn't this a table, not a graph?

(sithemong, Mon 22 Dec 2014, 9:21, , Reply)
This is a normal post The battleship Committee regards that the threat from Uboots is non existant.
Now go away before someone sees you
 (smellysamlyingcable Seaman on, Mon 22 Dec 2014, 9:28, , Reply)
This is a normal post So who are six and seven?
They're not familiar characters, let alone cartoonists.
 (I helped save b3ta! wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Sun 21 Dec 2014, 21:27, , Reply)
This is a normal post Hugo Pratt

(I helped save b3ta! omnitruncatedkraken from Empire Algol, Sun 21 Dec 2014, 21:38, , Reply)
This is a normal post with Corto Maltese
and Pertti Jarla "Fingerpori"
 (I helped save b3ta! omnitruncatedkraken from Empire Algol, Sun 21 Dec 2014, 21:42, , Reply)
This is a normal post Ta.
The Wikipedia entry for Fingerpori makes me wish I knew more than three words of Finnish.
 (I helped save b3ta! wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Sun 21 Dec 2014, 21:50, , Reply)
This is a normal post Perkele is the only one you need.

(I helped save b3ta! jonbob loves you, Sun 21 Dec 2014, 22:10, , Reply)
This is a normal post Too much Impaled Nazarene lately?

(I helped save b3ta! omnitruncatedkraken from Empire Algol, Sun 21 Dec 2014, 22:16, , Reply)
This is a normal post One can never have too many impalings.

(I helped save b3ta! jonbob loves you, Sun 21 Dec 2014, 22:59, , Reply)
This is a normal post They're called fawns, not impalings you pervert

(I helped save b3ta! wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Sun 21 Dec 2014, 23:33, , Reply)
This is a normal post *backs off slowly*

(I helped save b3ta! omnitruncatedkraken from Empire Algol, Sun 21 Dec 2014, 23:35, , Reply)
This is a normal post What's that you're backing into dear?

(I helped save b3ta! jonbob loves you, Mon 22 Dec 2014, 1:26, , Reply)
This is a normal post That would be an ecumenical matter, I'm afraid.

(I helped save b3ta! omnitruncatedkraken from Empire Algol, Mon 22 Dec 2014, 12:02, , Reply)
This is a normal post nice!
i like how bill wattersons garfield is just hobbes =)
 (discodaz *generic witty comment*, Sun 21 Dec 2014, 21:46, , Reply)
This is a normal post Wow, that's rather cool.
Especially the row of Himmlers...
 (I helped save b3ta! El Cid ...wing attack plan R..., Sun 21 Dec 2014, 22:41, , Reply)
This is a normal post I like this.

(I helped save b3ta! drimble he'd been white, he'd been black, Mon 22 Dec 2014, 1:17, , Reply)