Let's break down your straw man again - A few choice quotes from enthusiastic pro-europeans doesn't equal manifest destiny any more than BoJo promising 350m back to the NHS.
Yes, lots of nations in Europe are enthusiastically for greater and tighter integration because it will directly benefit the european nations from a number of perspectives including financially and militarily.
Finally, what terrifies you so about a United States of Europe (that doesn't exist) that you would cut off your own nose to spite your face?? What are you scared of?
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DinivanX Has stinging piss after drinking Pact Coffee, Wed 13 Dec 2017, 14:11,
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I really am still trying to understand the motivation that made people vote Leave.
My colleague (who is diagnosed autistic) voted Brexit because he wanted the economy to suffer so house prices would fall and he'd be more able to buy his son's houses in future with his savings (he admitted he hadn't thought through wanting his sons to get jobs in a thriving economy and 28 possible nations). At least there's a thought process going on there.
I understand the rich people who want out of the EU before their tax havens are clamped down upon.
I even understand the racists, apart from the morons who say "I see too many brown faces" who quite clearly don't know what and where Europe is.
I don't understand the argument "Bbbut eeeeeuurope" whilst pointing across the channel shivering in fear - What is that fear predicated on!?
Anyway, middle-class metropolitan (both positive labels over 'Unemployed Provincial' for example) circle jerk over.
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DinivanX Has stinging piss after drinking Pact Coffee, Wed 13 Dec 2017, 15:47,
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You know what... I can't keep fucking debating the eu with you anymore.
It's so incredibly dull I actually hate myself for taking part in it for the billionth time. It's the same fucking arguments over and over again.
Christ knows what it's like for other members that don't give a shit about the whole deal. Must be bored as fuck.
So I'm bailing on this until there's actually some sort of proper development to discuss. Just going to let you and benny circle jerk in your little middle class metropolitan bubble and get on with something more productive.
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Wed 13 Dec 2017, 14:33,
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