That's not changing the subject
Freedom of speech is not that easy to measure. You can only look at the UK in relation to other countries and what freedoms they have or don't have. In the UK you have the right to free speech - it shows everywhere from the media to the right of protest. It is also obvious that your objection stems from a specific issue with how the UK deals with something. So tell me, Jeffrey, where does the UK not allow free speech?
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The_cold_stare Coming here only when very, very bored, Mon 23 Apr 2018, 13:41,
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No specific issue
but just go to your news site of choice and search for 'hate crime' for numerous examples. The Nazi dog and the recent rap lyric cases are the obvious ones. BTW, you should be careful, under current UK law if anyone reported it your last post would very likely be recorded as a 'non-crime hate incident' by your local police force. With regards to the press and protests, super injunctions and dispersal orders mean these are also not complete freedoms.
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Jeffrey44 (User was banned for this post), Mon 23 Apr 2018, 15:02,
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But now you aren't making the distinction
Between freedom of speech and breaking the law (hate crime does break the law). However, without a specific example of where the freedom of speech right has not been exercised (without breaking the law) then you are deliberately making this discussion impossible.
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The_cold_stare Coming here only when very, very bored, Mon 23 Apr 2018, 17:22,
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Of course it breaks the law
That's the bit that means we don't have freedom of speech. We don't have freedom of speech because you can be punished for things that you say.
It's that simple. The UK doesn't have freedom of speech.
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Jeffrey44 (User was banned for this post), Mon 23 Apr 2018, 17:40,
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Okay, you're an idiot
It's the definition of freedom of speech that matters not your interpretation of it
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The_cold_stare Coming here only when very, very bored, Mon 23 Apr 2018, 20:55,
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