If Earth had rings
animation of how the sky would look if Earth had rings like Saturn
( , Wed 18 Nov 2009, 10:02, Reply)
animation of how the sky would look if Earth had rings like Saturn
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That was ace!
The reconstructed views from earth were pratty damn nifty.
( , Wed 18 Nov 2009, 10:09, Reply)
The reconstructed views from earth were pratty damn nifty.
( , Wed 18 Nov 2009, 10:09, Reply)
The Moon can just fuck off
I want rings around our planet !! *kerlick*
( , Wed 18 Nov 2009, 10:15, Reply)
I want rings around our planet !! *kerlick*
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Shame it doesn't mention the fucking huge shadow
being cast on the earth, or did I miss that bit?
( , Wed 18 Nov 2009, 10:22, Reply)
being cast on the earth, or did I miss that bit?
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I was thinking that.
And also about how rings implies the absence of such a large moon - or any moon at all - and the effects that these facts'd have on tidal forces and weather patterns.
( , Wed 18 Nov 2009, 10:44, Reply)
And also about how rings implies the absence of such a large moon - or any moon at all - and the effects that these facts'd have on tidal forces and weather patterns.
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I wonder what the earth would look like
if it was shaped like a CDC.... *wonders*
( , Wed 18 Nov 2009, 10:53, Reply)
if it was shaped like a CDC.... *wonders*
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pffft
people like me don't get FP, that's reserved for the special people.
( , Wed 18 Nov 2009, 11:26, Reply)
people like me don't get FP, that's reserved for the special people.
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There should be more moons
to represent the cum. And I see no pubes!
( , Wed 18 Nov 2009, 11:33, Reply)
to represent the cum. And I see no pubes!
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that's a good point
mini moons circling the moon, like some kind of fractal moon situation, getting increasingly smaller and smaller toward infinity.
I didn't include the pubes as it defied the laws of physics, and I didn't want to make the picture childish and innacurate.
( , Wed 18 Nov 2009, 13:07, Reply)
mini moons circling the moon, like some kind of fractal moon situation, getting increasingly smaller and smaller toward infinity.
I didn't include the pubes as it defied the laws of physics, and I didn't want to make the picture childish and innacurate.
( , Wed 18 Nov 2009, 13:07, Reply)
Don't accuse me of science!
I'm a humanities ponce through and through. I've done no science since a disappointing GCSE in physics in 1993.
( , Wed 18 Nov 2009, 11:12, Reply)
I'm a humanities ponce through and through. I've done no science since a disappointing GCSE in physics in 1993.
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hahaha that is an excellent point
I had completely forgotten about the moon. So in the process of getting a lully ring thing round earth, all life probably would of been wiped out. Mother Earth just has to have the latest fashion though! Moons are so last season, rings are where it's at.
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I had completely forgotten about the moon. So in the process of getting a lully ring thing round earth, all life probably would of been wiped out. Mother Earth just has to have the latest fashion though! Moons are so last season, rings are where it's at.
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Not sure about all life
but it'd be a very different planet. Doesn't the moon also have a slight tectonic impact? That'd make a difference to the carbon cycle, as well as the shape of the continents.
( , Wed 18 Nov 2009, 11:07, Reply)
but it'd be a very different planet. Doesn't the moon also have a slight tectonic impact? That'd make a difference to the carbon cycle, as well as the shape of the continents.
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Well what else would provide tidal forces?
If water doesn't move, it gets stagnent. The sea would stink like a bastard.
( , Wed 18 Nov 2009, 11:09, Reply)
If water doesn't move, it gets stagnent. The sea would stink like a bastard.
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Dunno.
There could still be life around the thermal vents - the mechanism that's been proposed to support possible life on Titan or Europa.
( , Wed 18 Nov 2009, 11:12, Reply)
There could still be life around the thermal vents - the mechanism that's been proposed to support possible life on Titan or Europa.
( , Wed 18 Nov 2009, 11:12, Reply)
ewww
like little bum holes in the stagnent sea. I think I prefer the moon lol
( , Wed 18 Nov 2009, 11:25, Reply)
like little bum holes in the stagnent sea. I think I prefer the moon lol
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It's the relative heating/cooling
at the equator and the poles that provide most of the oceanic currents.
I don't think the moon has an awful lot to do with it in terms of stopping it stagnate.
( , Wed 18 Nov 2009, 14:04, Reply)
at the equator and the poles that provide most of the oceanic currents.
I don't think the moon has an awful lot to do with it in terms of stopping it stagnate.
( , Wed 18 Nov 2009, 14:04, Reply)
Why do rings imply no moon?
On one of the pictures (Ayers Rock) it's even on there too. Saturn has moons too. The moon is much further away than the rings are, so it's conceivable that weather patterns etc would still work. I have no idea what effect the rings would have and weather there really would be a massive shadown. Maybe some trickery of the light would allow us not to live in perpetual darkness in winter the further north we are along the equator.
( , Wed 18 Nov 2009, 11:06, Reply)
On one of the pictures (Ayers Rock) it's even on there too. Saturn has moons too. The moon is much further away than the rings are, so it's conceivable that weather patterns etc would still work. I have no idea what effect the rings would have and weather there really would be a massive shadown. Maybe some trickery of the light would allow us not to live in perpetual darkness in winter the further north we are along the equator.
( , Wed 18 Nov 2009, 11:06, Reply)
There's a couple of reasons behind my thinking.
One is that the rings would likely as not be formed by the matter that'd otherwise have formed the moon.
The second is that, if there were rings and a moon, the rings probably wouldn't last, as the moon's gravity would destroy them. This would either be because the contents of the ring would be knocked out of orbit, either towards Earth or into space; or because the moon would accrete the material to itself.
( , Wed 18 Nov 2009, 11:10, Reply)
One is that the rings would likely as not be formed by the matter that'd otherwise have formed the moon.
The second is that, if there were rings and a moon, the rings probably wouldn't last, as the moon's gravity would destroy them. This would either be because the contents of the ring would be knocked out of orbit, either towards Earth or into space; or because the moon would accrete the material to itself.
( , Wed 18 Nov 2009, 11:10, Reply)
Universe Sandbox, a nifty simulation
...says that if earth had rings like Saturn, they would be unstable with the moon.
This screen is from after only 21 years of the rings magically appearing.
The strange pattern is because the moon does not orbit the equator.
However, even if we did have a moon that went round the equator, the
rings would still break apart.
( , Wed 18 Nov 2009, 11:42, Reply)
...says that if earth had rings like Saturn, they would be unstable with the moon.
This screen is from after only 21 years of the rings magically appearing.
The strange pattern is because the moon does not orbit the equator.
However, even if we did have a moon that went round the equator, the
rings would still break apart.
( , Wed 18 Nov 2009, 11:42, Reply)
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*Within reason
( , Wed 18 Nov 2009, 11:57, Reply)
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*Within reason
( , Wed 18 Nov 2009, 11:57, Reply)
I bought a license straight away
it will be all of the awesome for doing music vids, presuming I can export as movies. *glees*
( , Wed 18 Nov 2009, 12:49, Reply)
it will be all of the awesome for doing music vids, presuming I can export as movies. *glees*
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200 Years since the rings appeared and things are surprising stable
Camera moving, not the rings.
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Camera moving, not the rings.
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pfft
that looks identical to my* cock ring above
*not my personal cock ring
( , Wed 18 Nov 2009, 12:50, Reply)
that looks identical to my* cock ring above
*not my personal cock ring
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One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
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One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
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saturn gets away with it, we need a smaller moon
*fetches chisel*
( , Wed 18 Nov 2009, 13:53, Reply)
*fetches chisel*
( , Wed 18 Nov 2009, 13:53, Reply)
No they don't
Roche limit innit?
Matter close to the Roche limit to the Earth don't form moons because they'd be ripped apart by tidal forces.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roche_limit
( , Wed 18 Nov 2009, 11:17, Reply)
Roche limit innit?
Matter close to the Roche limit to the Earth don't form moons because they'd be ripped apart by tidal forces.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roche_limit
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Ta
Though I maintain that the moon's own gravity would quite probably still disrupt the ring formation.
( , Wed 18 Nov 2009, 11:20, Reply)
Though I maintain that the moon's own gravity would quite probably still disrupt the ring formation.
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Over the course of a few thousand years, I'd suspect quite a bit.
And they've already been welded together...
( , Wed 18 Nov 2009, 11:30, Reply)
And they've already been welded together...
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still possible
that they would get into some sort of status-quo like orbit where they get pulled away by the moon and then back by the earth and so on (a bit like a comet getting all the way to the asteroid belt but then getting pulled back by the sun. I'm aware there's a different reason for that, but it's still possible).
Meh, I'm sure there's a reason there aren't any rings now.
( , Wed 18 Nov 2009, 11:42, Reply)
that they would get into some sort of status-quo like orbit where they get pulled away by the moon and then back by the earth and so on (a bit like a comet getting all the way to the asteroid belt but then getting pulled back by the sun. I'm aware there's a different reason for that, but it's still possible).
Meh, I'm sure there's a reason there aren't any rings now.
( , Wed 18 Nov 2009, 11:42, Reply)
Sod it
If you're going to stick in rings, why not move the moon to somewhere where it'll not fuck with them?
( , Wed 18 Nov 2009, 11:48, Reply)
If you're going to stick in rings, why not move the moon to somewhere where it'll not fuck with them?
( , Wed 18 Nov 2009, 11:48, Reply)
Im guessing it would also
because of the the gravitational scale differences between the moon and earth than lets say compared to the gravitational forces from a gas giant sutch as saturn with a small moon sutch as Europa would only make a difference if one of the moons orbits close enough and then it would still only have a minimal desruption due to the gravitational scale difference. Because of the mass of the moon compared to that of the earth and the fact that it already affects a mass as heavy and close to the earth itself sutch as water then Im asuming the rings would be completely disrupted. OR more interesting still perhaps there would be a figure of 8 style ring system between earth and the moon (although that's doubtful as the moon doesn't rotate). If that makes any sense (not a scientist just a humble musician with a telescope)
( , Wed 18 Nov 2009, 11:54, Reply)
because of the the gravitational scale differences between the moon and earth than lets say compared to the gravitational forces from a gas giant sutch as saturn with a small moon sutch as Europa would only make a difference if one of the moons orbits close enough and then it would still only have a minimal desruption due to the gravitational scale difference. Because of the mass of the moon compared to that of the earth and the fact that it already affects a mass as heavy and close to the earth itself sutch as water then Im asuming the rings would be completely disrupted. OR more interesting still perhaps there would be a figure of 8 style ring system between earth and the moon (although that's doubtful as the moon doesn't rotate). If that makes any sense (not a scientist just a humble musician with a telescope)
( , Wed 18 Nov 2009, 11:54, Reply)
Even Satuarn's rings are not stable
They are getting wider very quickly
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They are getting wider very quickly
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my classics are shit...
can someone give me a heads up on the music?
( , Wed 18 Nov 2009, 11:04, Reply)
can someone give me a heads up on the music?
( , Wed 18 Nov 2009, 11:04, Reply)
We might end up with rings made of junk
- knackered satellites and so forth.
( , Wed 18 Nov 2009, 11:06, Reply)
- knackered satellites and so forth.
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'How would the Earth look...' or 'What would the Earth look like...'
Not "How would the Earth look like".
The rings would screw up satellite telecommunications and make all the houses/apartments without ring views plummet in value. I say let's make it happen!
( , Wed 18 Nov 2009, 11:24, Reply)
Not "How would the Earth look like".
The rings would screw up satellite telecommunications and make all the houses/apartments without ring views plummet in value. I say let's make it happen!
( , Wed 18 Nov 2009, 11:24, Reply)
You could give people facing away from the equator a ring view
by mounting massive goatse bill boards on the poles
( , Wed 18 Nov 2009, 12:22, Reply)
by mounting massive goatse bill boards on the poles
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that's utterly lovely
I wonder how different the human race would be (i.e. culture, society, religion etc) if this had been the case
( , Wed 18 Nov 2009, 12:57, Reply)
I wonder how different the human race would be (i.e. culture, society, religion etc) if this had been the case
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Great vid - it really got me thinking...
(Aside from the physical possibilities re. the moon etc), How would human culture and religion and mysticism have developed differently if we had had rings?
In Ecuador, they would have seen the vertical line, and could have come up with all sorts of theories and God's etc, but then further north, where you see more of it, there would have been many more different interpretations...
Haven't spent too much time thinking of the possibilities yet, but it's certainly food for thought.
(It could even be quite a good basis for a film...)
( , Wed 18 Nov 2009, 14:11, Reply)
(Aside from the physical possibilities re. the moon etc), How would human culture and religion and mysticism have developed differently if we had had rings?
In Ecuador, they would have seen the vertical line, and could have come up with all sorts of theories and God's etc, but then further north, where you see more of it, there would have been many more different interpretations...
Haven't spent too much time thinking of the possibilities yet, but it's certainly food for thought.
(It could even be quite a good basis for a film...)
( , Wed 18 Nov 2009, 14:11, Reply)