Rest of us?
The creative industries employ 794,000 people in this country and contributes £28billion to the UK economy.
It's not just a few perfumed ponces faffing about have a nice time.
How about you support that industry and avoid even more reliance on the financial sector?
(
Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Fri 23 Mar 2012, 12:10,
Share,
Reply)
I produce music
It's not very good in my opinion, but I enjoy it, always have. That doesn't mean that I am entitled to a living from it. If I made something I was really proud of, and it somehow got out to the world and loads of other people enjoyed it, I'd be chuffed to bits, not sitting here with a grump on with my hand out.
(, Fri 23 Mar 2012, 12:15, Share, Reply)
There is a difference between doing something as a hobby and as a job.
I used to be grateful for any publicity.
Worked for every evening for no money until I managed to land my first graphics job.
Then I got paid a small amount of money for it, worked all day 5 days a week getting home knackered eye's hurting from looking at a screen all day.
After while I got better at it. Got paid more.
Now I earn a living from it.
It's not a "grump on" it's protecting an industry that's on a knife edge.
(
Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Fri 23 Mar 2012, 12:25,
Share,
Reply)
so if you make a table you can sell it
but if you make an album you should give it away for free?
(, Fri 23 Mar 2012, 12:25, Share, Reply)
No, you can try and sell it
but don't start moaning when people decide to NOT buy it because technology has moved on to such a degree that they can get a duplicate for free.
Nobody forced you to spend X thousand pounds hiring out a recording studio plus engineer plus mastering. Diddums.
(
mr.dogshit The world's premier anthropomorphic canine faeces, Fri 23 Mar 2012, 12:34,
Share,
Reply)
i dont make music...
i sell film/tv/and internet ideas...
i do this so that i can provide a house and a life for my family
(a modest one)
but i should be doing this for the love right?
(, Fri 23 Mar 2012, 12:48, Share, Reply)
if you want to call yourself an artist, yes
if you do it just for money, then its just a job.
If you get paid, good for you.
(, Fri 23 Mar 2012, 13:01, Share, Reply)
you seem to have misunderstood the role
money has in art...
artists like van gogh were Career painters...they wanted to sell their work for money.
the whole doing it for art thing... is mainly a product of the minds that arn't connected to industry.
michaelangelo was a sculpter and painter FOR HIRE
as was Da vinci....
(, Fri 23 Mar 2012, 13:08, Share, Reply)
What an excellent point you've just made!
You've named arguable three of the most highly respected artistes of all time, yet ALL of them, as you rightly point out, had day jobs to pay the bills and supplement their love for art. Let alone the fact that Van Gogh died a pauper.
(
mr.dogshit The world's premier anthropomorphic canine faeces, Fri 23 Mar 2012, 13:48,
Share,
Reply)
erm...
no i was illustrating that all of those ARTISTS used paid for comissions...
that the ART they created was PAID FOR IN ADVANCE...
(, Fri 23 Mar 2012, 13:51, Share, Reply)
Your point being...?
(
mr.dogshit The world's premier anthropomorphic canine faeces, Fri 23 Mar 2012, 13:56,
Share,
Reply)
that none of those GREAT ARTISTS
were doing it for the art... they where all paid... and paid fairly well by todays standards...
it was in response to a comment which said if i create something and sell it...its a job... and that i can only be an artist if i give it away for free...
its all in the thread dude... seriously.
EDIT: here it is lazy:
me: but i should be doing this for the love right?
NOG: if you want to call yourself an artist, yes
if you do it just for money, then its just a job.
(, Fri 23 Mar 2012, 14:00, Share, Reply)
I don't have a clue what relevance this has to the original topic...
You wanna call yourself an artist? Go for it.
(
mr.dogshit The world's premier anthropomorphic canine faeces, Fri 23 Mar 2012, 14:07,
Share,
Reply)