It's hardly the WBC heavyweight crown.
Three dictionaries, three versions of google and french wikipedia versus an unidentified but "reliable" source. You'd be better off watching an old episode of Time Team and betting on how overexcited Baldrick will pretend to be over a bit of muddy pot.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Wed 18 May 2011, 20:03, 1 reply)

yeah, 3 of this, 3 of that...
and one shambo who is utterly incapable of reading, understanding and responding to the actual point made by a poster to whom he is responding.
if you keep making up the question in your own mind and ignoring the one on the screen in front of you then you will never achieve relevance.
( blaireau69 , the Cumbrian Travis Bickle., Wed 18 May 2011, 20:26, closed)

Yet I'm going to trust him over you
for he is not a nob end.
( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Wed 18 May 2011, 21:05, closed)

however he cannot read,
nor stick to the point.
or avoid fantasy over reality.
or appreciate the difference between a speaker of a language and a scholar of said language...
or, like yourself, the difference between sycophancy and agreement.
there's none so blind as those that cannot see.
( blaireau69 , the Cumbrian Travis Bickle., Wed 18 May 2011, 21:11, closed)

Oh dear. If you are a scholar of language then you understand that language is fluid.
I'll let Shambles handle his own argument however, as he is a big boy.
( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Wed 18 May 2011, 21:22, closed)

like shambo, you're clearly not a fan of reading, or you wouldn't have missed my ever-so-poorly hidden subtleties.
i'm neither a scholar of french nor have ever claimed to be.
i've only lived and worked t/here for about 20% of my life so far (about 1/3 of my working life), so not THAT much opportunity there to explore a culture or the attendant varieties of language within said country , i'm sure you would agree? or not.
i was referring to my source, who for reasons of shambo's prior stalkiness (logged but not linked), i believe wants to remain anonyme. she is 54yoa, has been speaking 3 languages since earliest development (vietnam), translator and interpreter in 7 languages these last 34-or-so years (except i keep telling her that she needs a bit more work on her portuguese, funny really, cos i could barely get a pint and a butty in oporto ;)), works freelance at high levels, returning to clients (academic and industrial mainly) year after year. i'm actually rather envious of her success, but i've never stuck with things the way she does.
yes, i'm sure sheeples is a VERY big boy.
a very big, thread-deleting, aggressive, stalky , intellectually inadequate boy.

yes ww, language is fluid. well done for realising that.
the point of this sub-thread was me (i thought quite nicely) correcting another poster on their mis-quoting of Diderot/Rousseau/Nicker.
And and then sheeples reckoning that he could have either:
1/0
1 some fun
0 me out
over this (dependent on ego-level).
what a wanker.
tried to prove me wrong but missed my point by a cuntry mile.
nothing unusual about such ignorance, pub quizzes are made of such wondrous stuff.
follow him blindly all you wish, empty heads have been doing that shiz for millenniae ;)
( blaireau69 , the Cumbrian Travis Bickle., Wed 18 May 2011, 22:42, closed)

http://www.b3ta.com/questions/conversationkillers/post1207754
It's rather odd in that post that it's unclear whether it's your or your mystery source who is so very talented. You can see how the conclusion that it was you was formed.

I'm not a french student, but I am utterly sure that crying about it being a yokel's phrase, is hardly the way forward. Quite clearly it can be used in both forms, and it's a matter of preference. At the most your point bears the same sort of hopeless rage that marks members of society who are reduced to tears that no-one puts the apostrophe before fridge anymore.
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Thu 19 May 2011, 0:44, closed)

"...reduced to tears that no-one puts the apostrophe before fridge anymore."
I think I love you.
( Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Thu 19 May 2011, 8:46, closed)

We're talking about language and I quote three dictionaries.
You absolutely fucking ridiculous prick.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Thu 19 May 2011, 0:02, closed)