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# Wanker
You're thinking no doubt of Ford? That may have been the first example of mass production in automotive production but you are very, very wrong. Buy an encyclopedia. A children's one with pretty colour pictures should do nicely.
(, Fri 10 Oct 2003, 17:26, archived)
# Should I provide some more links?
Or would you prefer that I draw you a pretty picture with crayons?
(, Fri 10 Oct 2003, 17:30, archived)
# From your own fucking link you tagnut:
The first car manufacturers in the world were French: Panhard & Levassor (1889) and Peugeot (1891). By car manufacturer we mean builders of entire motor vehicles for sale and not just engine inventors who experimented with car design to test their engines - Daimler and Benz began as the latter before becoming full car manufacturers and made their early money by licensing their patents and selling their engines to car manufacturers.
(, Fri 10 Oct 2003, 17:37, archived)
# What did you not understand about
clarification I made above? "As we know it today"... do you get that? He was the first person to make vehicles available to the common man. If it weren't for Ford, the automobile would be as widespread as jet aircraft. Plenty of them around for businesses and the extremely rich, but you can't afford one.

Can I make it any clearer? Possibly use smaller words?
(, Fri 10 Oct 2003, 17:52, archived)
# Very childish
Having realised that the argument is lost, it is in particularly poor sport to redefine your initial statement. It is also a bemusing strategy on a blog where the whole argument is laid bare. I refer you to my initial post.

EDIT - Shit - I didn't think you'd be as low as to go back and edit your initial argument. Pussy.
(, Fri 10 Oct 2003, 18:00, archived)
# Nearly as childish as
double posting, straying from the point I was trying to make in my initial post, and looking so closely for things to misinterpret that you miss the fact that I ammended my statement before you posted initially.
(, Fri 10 Oct 2003, 18:05, archived)
# Not to mention childish name calling
And I didn't edit my initial post, I ammended it with an second post.
(, Fri 10 Oct 2003, 18:12, archived)
# I apologise
You am the best
(, Fri 10 Oct 2003, 18:12, archived)