Presumablybecause they were not as effective satires as something like Brazil.
While you could say it is wholly the fault of the viewer for not recognising such things, Starship Troopers particularly does play the awful patriotic line/satire line too hard. And the cheesiness of it somewhat ruins any intellectual point.
EDIT: Plus to the best of my memory Starship Troopers the novel was not actually satirical at all, the author was a horrific pro-war mentalist and apparantly it is pretty much required reading in the American military.
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Thu 28 Feb 2008, 19:10,
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While you could say it is wholly the fault of the viewer for not recognising such things, Starship Troopers particularly does play the awful patriotic line/satire line too hard. And the cheesiness of it somewhat ruins any intellectual point.
EDIT: Plus to the best of my memory Starship Troopers the novel was not actually satirical at all, the author was a horrific pro-war mentalist and apparantly it is pretty much required reading in the American military.
Wrong.He didn't like war, but though it might be a necessary part of the human condition, as we seem to proving all too often. He also preferred a meritocracy to unlimited freedoms for all.
He copped a lot of flack as a lot of people didn't read it all that carefully.
Strangley, it seems to sum up the modern day rather well when he describes the state of the world before the Veterans took control.
Ok, so it still comes across as 'bring back military service for all', except that you have the choice. You want all the rights, you serve your country/planet/federation, etc.
(He copped a lot of flack as a lot of people didn't read it all that carefully.
Strangley, it seems to sum up the modern day rather well when he describes the state of the world before the Veterans took control.
Ok, so it still comes across as 'bring back military service for all', except that you have the choice. You want all the rights, you serve your country/planet/federation, etc.
Colonel Boris "...a desperate Buzzfeed imitation...",
Thu 28 Feb 2008, 19:22,
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Anything by Paul Verhoeven can be seen as a satire,but the book has been critisised for being military, but won an award fro it's political statement.
Brazil is not subtle, it is a futuristic story of how bad things have got. That is not satire, it is Science fiction.
Robocop was wonderfully satirical, but people just loved the big guns in the leg too much.
(Brazil is not subtle, it is a futuristic story of how bad things have got. That is not satire, it is Science fiction.
Robocop was wonderfully satirical, but people just loved the big guns in the leg too much.
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Thu 28 Feb 2008, 19:23,
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I saw every serious point it madeand said 'I'll buy that for a dollar!!'
tee hee!
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Colonel Boris "...a desperate Buzzfeed imitation...",
Thu 28 Feb 2008, 19:32,
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I fail to see how you can say Robocop is satirical and Brazil isn'twhen the government, setting and such is pretty much identical. Especially given how it is critically acclaimed as a dark satire... The whole point of Brazil was not futurism, given that the entire enviroment was even worse than it currently is, it was the cutting officious nature of the government and existence and Sam Lowry's attempts to escape it through fantasy. That's not mentioning the autocratic government departments which are frankly haunting.
Also I wouldn't class Hollowman as satire.
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Thu 28 Feb 2008, 19:36,
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Also I wouldn't class Hollowman as satire.