Let's rephrase that
"If people are too stupid to vote, they shouldn't be allowed to vote."
I'm thinking of the hordes of mindless cockweasels that read the gutter press and vote accordingly. And old people who are clearly away with the fairies. "Grandma knows best." No she doesn't, she's always letting dodgy roofers in.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 11:26, Share, Reply)
so who decides?
You? Does democracy now depend on who you approve of?
British people are on the whole very decent. We don't have race riots, we all get along pretty well in the main. We get to spout opinions on B3ta and do stupid pictures making fun of our political leaders. Our legal system is 100% better than that in the EU, innocent until proven guilty and all that. There are a lot, lot worse places to live.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 11:58, Share, Reply)
This was an issue far too complicated to be put to a referendum
That's the problem. Whether you live in Tunbridge Wells or Merthyr Tydfil it's highly unlikely you have a grasp of the true implications of remaining or leaving. Hence the vote was decided on the front pages of the tabloids; hence it's bullshit.
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thecrapgatsby isn't listening LALALALALALA, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 12:10,
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I agree, there should not have been a referendum
It was far too complex to predict what would happen next, for every downside there is an upside. Pound goes down, our exports are more competitive, but French wine and BMWs cost more. We don't pay into the EU, but instead have to pay for more bureaucrats in Whitehall to replace the ones in Brussels.
Either way it was a voyage into the unknown, so asking the question was pointless and painful. It's set half the population against the other just to avoid losing votes to UKIP.
We have representative democracy so that our MPs decide on things like this. Cameron was a fool for calling it and now he has paid the price.
Of course MPs can ignore the referendum, and that is a potential outcome. No-one on the leave side seems keen to pull the trigger yet, so it may be that more concessions come our way, then we stay in. We shall see, it's not over yet.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 12:30, Share, Reply)
let's wait and see the terms of the new trade deals before we assume our exports are going to be more competitive
Exporters certainly dont seem to think they will
Imports certainly will cost more so the cost of living will rise which will fuck the poor who voted for all this hardest. Well done everyone
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 12:39, Share, Reply)
the Germans have already said they'll keep things as they are, there are a lot of EU jobs depending on no trade barriers.
Also, the terms can't be worse than WTO rules, which were not far off EU tariffs.
My guess is not much will change.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 13:13, Share, Reply)
Totally sick of people banging on about democracy...
with a Tory party only 25% of the population voted for. There are shades of democracy and us...with a Queen...a House of Lords don't have what many people think we have, we don't have a referendum on every law. There is an expectation that we elect people to make certain decisions for us...you know because they are meant to know what to do and read up on all the dull facts.
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transparenttown Dead to worse..., Fri 24 Jun 2016, 12:21,
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so would you say the same if remain had won?
Democracy in the UK is shit, so the result is invalid?
Or would you say "in your face Farage, loser! Democracy prevails!"
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 12:33, Share, Reply)
Yes, all of them things apart from the invalid bit.
I just mean it is all democracy, democracy, democracy but once you drill down it is all about boarder controls, foreigners, harking back to a past that never really existed and some mong wanting to get their blue passport back.
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transparenttown Dead to worse..., Fri 24 Jun 2016, 12:43,
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nobody who voted remain even wanted this vote in the first place
and would have been quite happy if it never happened even if they won it
In fact I think most of the remainers would have been shitting themselves even if they had won, seeing how close they came to the idiots taking over.
"congratulations you won with 52% of the vote. Now enjoy your life in a country where nearly half the population hates your guts."
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mutated monty, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 12:56,
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