"Refused to give his his name"
It never ceases to amaze me that when people refuse to cooperate with a paramilitary organisation, which has a mandate to use force at their own discretion, and things don't turn out well for them, they are shocked and upset.
( , Fri 20 Jan 2017, 14:25, Share, Reply)
It never ceases to amaze me that when people refuse to cooperate with a paramilitary organisation, which has a mandate to use force at their own discretion, and things don't turn out well for them, they are shocked and upset.
( , Fri 20 Jan 2017, 14:25, Share, Reply)
Yes, it's totally justified when a 60 year old man who won't tell you his name and is backing away from you to electrocute him the face.
You don't even need to warn him he is going to be tasered as per the police guidelines.
No name? Pew pew pew!
( , Fri 20 Jan 2017, 14:33, Share, Reply)
You don't even need to warn him he is going to be tasered as per the police guidelines.
No name? Pew pew pew!
( , Fri 20 Jan 2017, 14:33, Share, Reply)
He was clearly physically resisting arrest, swinging his arms all over the place. If he had cooperated, he wouldn't have been tasered.
I never said it was justified, but if you're so fucking stupid that you think you can get away with defying someone that can legally use force against you and detain you for non-cooperation, the consequences are inevitable. And what's the problem with telling a copper your name? I've been asked to, I wasn't happy about it, and was a bit stroppy, but because I'm not a spastic cunt who decided to back away as if to flee while flailing my arms about in an aggressive manner, I didn't even get arrested, nevermind tasered.
Now, hadn't you best be off to some anti-Trump inauguration rally, you daft hippie?
( , Fri 20 Jan 2017, 14:46, Share, Reply)
I never said it was justified, but if you're so fucking stupid that you think you can get away with defying someone that can legally use force against you and detain you for non-cooperation, the consequences are inevitable. And what's the problem with telling a copper your name? I've been asked to, I wasn't happy about it, and was a bit stroppy, but because I'm not a spastic cunt who decided to back away as if to flee while flailing my arms about in an aggressive manner, I didn't even get arrested, nevermind tasered.
Now, hadn't you best be off to some anti-Trump inauguration rally, you daft hippie?
( , Fri 20 Jan 2017, 14:46, Share, Reply)
I'm with the daft hippie on this one.
No violence just resisting being grabbed.
Not a justification for the use of what can be fatal weapon.
( , Fri 20 Jan 2017, 14:53, Share, Reply)
No violence just resisting being grabbed.
Not a justification for the use of what can be fatal weapon.
( , Fri 20 Jan 2017, 14:53, Share, Reply)
Resisting arrest in a way that the lumpier policeman could easily have restrained him without zapping him.
I mean, they do train police how to do that you know? I kickbox with several rozzers and they have taught us the insertion (oo-er) and extraction techniques for getting violent ne'er do wells in and out of cells. Not once did any of them say the only weak point to the exercise is if they are swinging their arms.
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I mean, they do train police how to do that you know? I kickbox with several rozzers and they have taught us the insertion (oo-er) and extraction techniques for getting violent ne'er do wells in and out of cells. Not once did any of them say the only weak point to the exercise is if they are swinging their arms.
( , Fri 20 Jan 2017, 14:54, Share, Reply)
It was the woman that tasered him.
Maybe she's a massive brexit voting racist, or maybe she was on the rag, I dunno.
( , Fri 20 Jan 2017, 15:00, Share, Reply)
Maybe she's a massive brexit voting racist, or maybe she was on the rag, I dunno.
( , Fri 20 Jan 2017, 15:00, Share, Reply)
It's most likely the consequence of giving a dumb-ass a weapon.
( , Fri 20 Jan 2017, 15:08, Share, Reply)
( , Fri 20 Jan 2017, 15:08, Share, Reply)
Agreed. Which is precisely why only an equally dumb-assed individual would resist arrest.
( , Fri 20 Jan 2017, 15:16, Share, Reply)
( , Fri 20 Jan 2017, 15:16, Share, Reply)
Humans are not perfect, that make mistakes and errors of judgement.
Coppers are humans. Coppers can use force, and tasers. Things can end very badly if you don't do what they ask of you. Being surprised or outraged by any of this is pretty bloody fatuous.
( , Fri 20 Jan 2017, 15:04, Share, Reply)
Coppers are humans. Coppers can use force, and tasers. Things can end very badly if you don't do what they ask of you. Being surprised or outraged by any of this is pretty bloody fatuous.
( , Fri 20 Jan 2017, 15:04, Share, Reply)
Like the time they tasered that blind man for thinking his white cane was a samurai sword?
What a mistaka to maka!
( , Fri 20 Jan 2017, 15:11, Share, Reply)
What a mistaka to maka!
( , Fri 20 Jan 2017, 15:11, Share, Reply)
Humans can also be thugs, bullies, ignoramuses and racists.
One would hope there'd be something in the recruitment and induction of people into responsible public serving roles that would weed out those traits. But apparently not.
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One would hope there'd be something in the recruitment and induction of people into responsible public serving roles that would weed out those traits. But apparently not.
( , Fri 20 Jan 2017, 15:16, Share, Reply)
I can see it's a bad idea to resist but as a society how tragic it is to see
( , Fri 20 Jan 2017, 15:08, Share, Reply)
( , Fri 20 Jan 2017, 15:08, Share, Reply)
In order to be resisting arrest,
the police must be attempting to arrest, having informed him of their intent to arrest, and having reasonable grounds for arrest.
They hadn't, so he wasn't.
( , Fri 20 Jan 2017, 15:12, Share, Reply)
the police must be attempting to arrest, having informed him of their intent to arrest, and having reasonable grounds for arrest.
They hadn't, so he wasn't.
( , Fri 20 Jan 2017, 15:12, Share, Reply)
Don't forget, if you do fail to give a verbal warning BEFORE discharging your weapon,
you can always just shout it several times AFTERWARDS, and that's fine.
Any court in the land will take a copper's word over some scruff who got zapped.
Of course, she could have just been trying to shine the laser into his eyes and it went off, but that takes special training to blind someone.
( , Fri 20 Jan 2017, 15:11, Share, Reply)
you can always just shout it several times AFTERWARDS, and that's fine.
Any court in the land will take a copper's word over some scruff who got zapped.
Of course, she could have just been trying to shine the laser into his eyes and it went off, but that takes special training to blind someone.
( , Fri 20 Jan 2017, 15:11, Share, Reply)