Cellar management courses are Bollocks.

( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Mon 28 Jul 2014, 17:02, 2 replies, latest was 10 years ago)

'Change stuff when it's empty, put the empty stuff in a different corner'.
'start using the unused parts of the cellar as a skip'.
( Slippery Mick ‏, Mon 28 Jul 2014, 17:04, Reply)

It's just that beer is so unpredictable, and no one I've met who has done a cellar course,
Has the faintest idea how beer can and does act.
( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Mon 28 Jul 2014, 17:05, Reply)

I found out why my local shut down the other day.
The new landlord apparently cut a deal with Punch so he could get the place rent free on a rolling contract. He then got all his orders from the wholesalers and never placed a beer order with Punch, so they kicked him out.
( Slippery Mick ‏, Mon 28 Jul 2014, 17:08, Reply)

They will do that. Punch are scum.

( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Mon 28 Jul 2014, 17:15, Reply)

Yeah, I'd heard the previous landlady call them all the cunts under the sun for years.
However I don't think they were at fault this time.
( Slippery Mick ‏, Mon 28 Jul 2014, 17:19, Reply)

Well, depends on the contract he signed.
They usually have a minimum order from them, then whatever you want from elsewhere. Or all keg stock and get your wine and spirits where you want. It's almost certainly his own fault
( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Mon 28 Jul 2014, 17:21, Reply)

It was the latter.
Apparently he was an opportunist hoping that punch would go tits up and he could get a deal on the pub.

Whereas, by the look of the way they ramped up the asking price of the building the minute it reopened they just wanted him to keep it warm until they could flog it.
( Slippery Mick ‏, Mon 28 Jul 2014, 17:26, Reply)

We're getting it free, so thought might as well.

(DBT became a fruitarian on, Mon 28 Jul 2014, 17:06, Reply)

I highly doubt it'll help.
They'll teach you how it should work. But because of the way beer is moved, and stored and knocked about and warmed up, and chilled too much, it never does what it should. And also, serve by dates on kegs are Bollocks. Once it's hit the air, get rid of it as soon as possible. If you vent it and leave it a week like they will probably tell you, you'll be selling vinegar. And as a tenant, they'll be very very reluctant to take back any bad stock.
( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Mon 28 Jul 2014, 17:10, Reply)