I put it to you that 'karma' is demonstrably bollocks.
So plainly evident is this, that through the ages people have had to convince themselves that their transgressors will 'get theirs' after they've died, to avoid dealing with this fact.

Another blatant load of shit is that 'the meek shall inherit the earth'. Don't make me fucking laugh - no they won't. The meek will inherit being repeatedly shat on by the not-so-meek. And when this happens time and time again, the meek then convince themselves things will improve after they've died.

This is only true in that they will no longer exist and thus the misery of their meek and humble existence with all its associated privations and degradation is finally over.

Prove to me that I am wrong, or 'eat a dick', as our most charming transatlantic cousins so eloquently put it.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 9:26, 185 replies, latest was 15 years ago)

I am in total agreement with you.
I'm quite looking forward to complete oblivion after I die.
( girlinthehole, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 9:27, Reply)

Yep, me too
I think I'll deserve the rest!
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 9:29, Reply)

I have spent a lot of time and money rehearsing for it.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 9:31, Reply)

Have you ever beckoned it near or do you have a strong sense of how much your body can take?
By all means tell me to fuck off if it's too personal a question.
(Cave Duck, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 9:41, Reply)

Unfortunately for my wallet
I have the constitution of an ox and a warrior's build. I do expect to be struck down by a heart attack at some point, though.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 9:44, Reply)

Will this be during a relatively simple game of peek-a-boo with your little girl?

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 9:50, Reply)

I hope it will be a carbon copy of John Entwistle's demise.
(in my 60s, in a hotel in Las Vegas, coked out of my nut and shagging a woman a third of my age)
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 9:55, Reply)

Nah
Monty is the bastard son of Keith Richards - he will die aged 114 in a coke/hooker/sausage orgy
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 9:56, Reply)

The physically strong but stupid are now repeatedly shit on by the accountants
the tradesmen, the politicians.
All would have been seen as meek when that was originally said.
(PsychoChomp, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 9:30, Reply)

Is this about Mark Oaten?

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 9:31, Reply)

Mark Oaten, and lets face it Clegg would be someone's bitch in prison.

(PsychoChomp, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 9:32, Reply)

Oaten cranking out dirty protests at the slightest excuse...

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 9:35, Reply)

Can I agree
and not eat a dick?

If Karma was for real there would be no Robert Mugabe types
( Peej, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 9:40, Reply)

I think you should eat a dick anyway, sorry.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 9:42, Reply)

It's karma for summat or other.

(Cave Duck, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 9:43, Reply)

Well the people got what they voted for
(he was properly democratically elected at first and repeatedly)
(PsychoChomp, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 9:42, Reply)

So ignorance and fear had nothing to do with it.

( girlinthehole, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 9:47, Reply)

At last, an argument I can join in - on account have having listened to the Bob Marley song "Zimbabwe".

(Cave Duck, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 9:51, Reply)

I think they all just like the tache

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 9:53, Reply)

I once listened to Toto's Africa whilst drinking Um Bongo

(Zoz prayed for twink on, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 9:54, Reply)

lol

( girlinthehole, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 9:57, Reply)

I'm pretty sure that that qualifies you for a Phd in African Studies.
I'm just going to listen to African & White by China Crisis to make sure that I have a balanced view,
(Cave Duck, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 9:58, Reply)

I saw the pop video to that the other day, awesomely un-pc
The lead singer is dressed like Quartermaine from King Solomons mines and he's being waited on by a sexy tribe-woman.

FAN-Tastic


Edit - I may have made the sexy tribe-woman up in my head.
( Colonel Dracula Two manky hookers and a racist dwarf, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 9:58, Reply)

Damn you Drac
I just youtube'd it and am very disappointed. You owe me a sexy tribeswoman.
(Zoz prayed for twink on, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:06, Reply)

Sorry
i'll go to Africa. Which tribe do you want? Zulu or the other one?
( Colonel Dracula Two manky hookers and a racist dwarf, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:09, Reply)

Bongo-bongo land?

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:14, Reply)

Somali

(Zoz prayed for twink on, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:15, Reply)

Well I once spoke to a Traffic Warden in the West End.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 9:56, Reply)

This is going to sound horribly racist
but it seems to me that in certain (I want to say many but I can only thingk of a few examples such as Charles Taylor, Idi Amin and Mugabe) African cultures they actually seem to like fat bullies as their leaders.

They respect strength - these chaps are like the fucking silverbacks in a band of gorillas.

I JUST HAVE MADE A PRIMATE ANALOGY REGARDING AFRICAN CULTURES*.


*don't worry though, 'I'll get my comeuppance in the end - it's karma'
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 9:52, Reply)

Yeah and that Mandella.
What you're doing there is naming a couple of countries that have had bastard leaders in Africa and ignoring all the ones without big bully leaders.
(PsychoChomp, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 9:55, Reply)

They're the only ones that get on the news.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 9:57, Reply)

You're not the first person to come up with that way of thinking
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_man_political_science)
(PsychoChomp, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:01, Reply)

I read 'big man political science'
in a cod-African 'me Tarzan you Jane' voice.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:05, Reply)

Ignorance isn't an excuse.

(PsychoChomp, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 9:54, Reply)

I'm not going to argue with you again because I'm feeling all lovely and chipper.
Yes I know I replied to your original post but I've decided to take it no further and I'm not deleting it.
( girlinthehole, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 9:56, Reply)

You vote in a Marxist Guerilla
who uses the military against his own people within 5 years of taking office repeatedly over 20 years.
You get a fucking shit violent government.
(PsychoChomp, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 9:59, Reply)

...and you fucking deserve it.
Cunts.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:01, Reply)

Still not arguing.

( girlinthehole, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:02, Reply)

You should probably go read a book.

(PsychoChomp, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:05, Reply)

I don't need to.
I'm getting me one of those fancy on-line diplomas from the Arizona University.
( girlinthehole, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:10, Reply)

go AND read a book?

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:15, Reply)

go TO read a book?

( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:23, Reply)

Depends on the proximity of "a book"

(PsychoChomp, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:35, Reply)

Of course it's weak willed hippy lefty communist bollocks
www.b3ta.com/questions/karma/ concluded as much
( djtrialprice, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 9:44, Reply)

I think everyone knows this deep down, even the religious types.
I expect when Jeebus gave his sermon on the mount most people thought, "Blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the earth? Yeah right beardy"

"Look, we either listen to him or we have to go back to work..."
( Colonel Dracula Two manky hookers and a racist dwarf, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 9:44, Reply)

Blessed are the cheesemakers?

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 9:48, Reply)

Found this spoon sir.

( Peej, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:08, Reply)

i thought he said blessed are the greek...

( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 9:49, Reply)

"...for theirs are far superior beards to mine own"

(LongJohnBaldry, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 9:49, Reply)

I wanted to avoid a "Life of Brian" quote-fest
but if you insist..."What have the Greek ever done for us?...OH THE MEEK, aw isn't that nice, they've had a hell of a time"
( Colonel Dracula Two manky hookers and a racist dwarf, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 9:55, Reply)

i have to admit i do love that film
the bit where the centurions are correcting his latin grammar... it is so exactly how my latin a-level was. "so you must use the... LOCATIVE, LOCATIVE, argh don't put me in detention again, ffs"

*shudder*
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:01, Reply)

Latin A-level?
I think we went to very different schools
( Colonel Dracula Two manky hookers and a racist dwarf, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:04, Reply)

i wanted to do english, history, classics
an easy 3 A's.

my parents/school wanted english, french, latin. 1 easy A, 2 years of hard work. no thanks.

we compromised on english, history, latin - 2 easy A's and a fucking nightmare for 2 years to scrape a B because it was so bloody boring. i hate that B. it ruins my cv! it means i end up having to put down an A in general studies as well, which looks impressive until interviewers ask me what the subjects were...
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:10, Reply)

English, C15th-16th History and Classical Civilisation
were the very 'A' Levels I chose!
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:13, Reply)

bugger
and i bet if your parents/deputy head (who clearly had a vested interest as she taught latin and they only had 1 pupil do it for a-level the year before) had tried to tell you what to study, you'd have told them to sod off as well!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:21, Reply)

My parents were of the 'study what you are interested in' school of thought.
I am now a financial train-wreck in a job I hate.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:23, Reply)

mine were a nightmare about exams and homework
but to be fair they raised a headmaster, a lawyer and an accountant, horrendously middle-class. i never even saw the law thing coming, one minute i was in the car with my dad and he was saying "don't you fancy this law conversion that evie is doing" and i was thinking about the guy i was shagging at the time, and the next thing i knew, i was back in london at the college of law.

you could change your job?
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:29, Reply)

Not easily I couldn't, sadly.
If I wasn't tied to London by my daughter and didn't mind relocating to somewhere where I know no-one (this would also have to be somewhere where being a non-driver wouldn't be an issue), then it might be a little easier, but only an idiot would run my kind of business out of London when warehousing and staff are so much cheaper everywhere else.

/dull, sorry
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:40, Reply)

i suppose on paper training as something else sounds easy
in practice, it's just not going to happen for most people, and quite understandably.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:49, Reply)

Detention at 'A' Level? Really?
I don't think my 6th form college had such things.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:06, Reply)

christ i was forever in detention
mostly for wearing makeup and skiving latin lessons.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:10, Reply)

My 6th form never had a detention system either - let alone issue with students wearing makeup
And there's at least 110 years or so between Monty and I doing our respective 'A' levels - was yours just an odd blip on the map, or were other people's colleges as draconian as yours?
(LongJohnBaldry, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:17, Reply)

mine was a private school
you got expelled if you were caught off the premises during school hours, we had a full on uniform, etc.

i was lucky, i absolutely loved school, as i had lots of friends, and we enjoyed breaking the rules. but some people really really hated it.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:23, Reply)

breaking the rules masturbating with bread
(Bazongaloid, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:26, Reply)

Ah, so it was a French school as well?

(LongJohnBaldry, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:28, Reply)

Ah, I see.
And I can imagine why a lot of people would have hated it. I was overjoyed to be shot of uniform-wearing by the time I was 15 (which seems to have lasted to this day as I also take real umbrage with being stuffed into a suit...)
(LongJohnBaldry, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:26, Reply)

the explanation at our school
was that lots of the kids came from very rich backgrounds and there would have been a real disparity in some people wearing designer gear.

we didn't really mind - if you roll your skirt up/wear your gym skirt, you get a LOT of attention in school uniform. and as 17 year old little tartlets, we bloody loved that!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:31, Reply)

At least you've put all that behind you eh?

(Zoz prayed for twink on, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:35, Reply)

sometimes in front of me, to be fair

( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:47, Reply)

People called Romanes, they go, the house?

( Peej, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:08, Reply)

'Karma,' in the standard meaning of the word, is horse-shit
As it implies that some supernatural force is keeping a watchful eye on everyone's actions, which is about as laudable a theory as one that suggests Saturn is simply a massive spherical smokescreen to hide the activities of an invasion force of Magic Nazi Pandas.

The only possible way in which something like 'karma' could manifest itself in real life is in the possible chain of events where years of behaving like a cunt mean that you show visible signs of being a cunt, and therefore the people who might otherwise have been your friends are wary of you because they are aware of your reputation for being a cunt. This, of course, does not stop you being a fabulously wealthy or successful cunt, and there will still be no come-uppance after you die for having been a cunt. Such cunts will essentially get away with being cunts, but the weaker and less cunty among us simpy have to hope that such cunts will die as lonely cunts.

Or if that's "TL;DR" - I couldn't agree more.
(LongJohnBaldry, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 9:46, Reply)

I for one
welcome our Magic Nazi Panda overlords
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 9:51, Reply)

They're my favourite band.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 9:58, Reply)

I only really liked their early stuff.

(Cave Duck, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 9:59, Reply)

Yeah
They went to shite after Ming Ming left
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:01, Reply)

The good thing about being in a band with pandas
is you get all the groupies - they just can't be arsed to mate.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:07, Reply)

The rider of "fuck loads of bamboo" is a tad disappointing though.

(Cave Duck, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:08, Reply)

Innit.
No matter how much you get through, it does practically NOTHING.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:15, Reply)

It sticks in the nose too

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:16, Reply)

The thought that karma MIGHT be real has kept me going through a few difficult situations, the hope that people will get their just deserts
I know it's likely not true, but it's stopped me from breaking down completely. Well, either that or hulking out and killing them.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 9:47, Reply)

curses and chickens come home to roost, you mean?

( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 9:53, Reply)

I've never heard that phrase before
So I'll simply agree
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 9:54, Reply)

Its a good phrase
I like it
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:00, Reply)

i'd just like to take a moment to say...
wooooo! PAYDAY!

sorry, as you were.

edit - i never normally bother opening my payslips, as i know what they say. but this one i did and i've just noted that the pension bit is actually called "PENSION SACRIFICE". humph, they should put that on the tax and N.I. contributions as well...
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 9:50, Reply)

I hate my payslip
Top left sounds so nice before all the deductions and bottom right is shite
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 9:53, Reply)

100000000000000000 x this
i swear the tax deduction is bigger than what i am left with at the end of it.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 9:54, Reply)

I pay myself.
All the excitement is taken from me : (
( girlinthehole, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 9:58, Reply)

Pay yourself more then!

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:00, Reply)

Can't do that.
That would be unlawful. I'm sure swipey would confirm that.
( girlinthehole, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:03, Reply)

no, i am all in favour of being paid more
i should be paid more too.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:08, Reply)

Mememememememe!
I need more money
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:09, Reply)

Yep
It pains me that I pay more in tax each month now than I used to earn net when I first started work...
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 9:59, Reply)

sucks doesn't it?
and i am sure it gets higher every month.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:08, Reply)

Whine whine whine whine whine whine

(Bazongaloid, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:27, Reply)

shush it you

( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:48, Reply)

I've got another week to wait for mine :-(

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 9:54, Reply)

10 days :(
This month is a stupid one with 5 weekends between paydays.
(berk, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:03, Reply)

Am I the only person
who, upon reading 'PENSION SACRIFICE' immediately thought of a voodoo ritual in which the elderly are slaughtered?

I am? Oh.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:00, Reply)

This would be better than paying money out

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:02, Reply)

Well, you'd be fucked

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:04, Reply)

I immediatly thought of the old rules where you could contract out of SERPS and pay that proporion of NI
into your own personal pension plan.

I'm not sure what that says about me (but I can probably guess)
( Colonel Dracula Two manky hookers and a racist dwarf, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:06, Reply)

i wouldn't slaughter the elderly but i could go for a ritual sacrifice this morning
let's start with the enormously obese african-american couple who forced their way onto an overcrowded piccadilly line tube this morning together with their suitcases. which should be banned during the rushhour. if you can't afford a taxi or a coffee until after 10am, you can't afford a holiday.

anyway, the woman was clearly not fitting in, so she rammed her suitcase further in. at which point the handle jammed me right in my ovaries. this was a really really pleasant start to the morning. i think my exact words were "what the fuck". she finally managed to wedge her way in. but the doors wouldn't close past her enormous parcel-shelf arse. eventually they gave up and trogged off.

so yeah. my bruised ovaries would like to start with sacrificing them and any other cunts who bring suitcases on the tube, please.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:07, Reply)

Hahahahah
Officelol
(Himjim died a little more inside on, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:13, Reply)

i know
and if i'd only ridden a bike, my ovaries would be intact!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:13, Reply)

No doubt
the suitcase were full of 'bushmeat'
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:16, Reply)

Why they would want to eat that shit when they can get as many Turkey Twizlers as they want is beyond me.

( girlinthehole, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:18, Reply)

burgers
and more burgers
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:24, Reply)

I disagree that karma doesn't exist.
I recon life, at least for me, balances out. There is a lot of shit out there in my life, I got a raw deal in so many respects, but in others I'm blessed compared to others.

Those [oppersite of meek] people at school generally have had shit childhoods, have done or have close family doing time. Abuse, drugs and prostertition are stuff that I read about and they live. I wouldn't swap for anything with them.

They live with guilt for the things they have done, oh well, gutted, shouldn't have done it. I saw a bitch who ruined a job I had last year selling newspapers rather than managing a team of developers making serious wage.

It's those who do fuck all to change their situation that they don't like... Who will lose.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:05, Reply)

Your last sentence
suggests you believe in self-determinism which is practically the opposite of karmic theory. You're saying that if things are shit for you, you should change them - not merely sit back and wait for the rewards due to you (through the laws of some nebulous system of natural justice) because you have lived a 'virtuous' life.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:11, Reply)

Hmm, yah, my views are quite contradictory.
I think with effort _and_ being good (karma) comes reward... But in this life, not the next.

And that if you go around hurting people, you end up feeling shit about it or life comes back kick you in the arse either before or after the event.

Deffo what goes around comes around.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:35, Reply)

But would you agree that there's no basis for saying there's any "spiritual" force guiding it
Or that they'll "receive their punishment in the next life" or somesuch similar bollocks?
(LongJohnBaldry, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:11, Reply)

Nothing sprital, just that _that_ is how things work.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:36, Reply)

In which case I think you make a good point.

(LongJohnBaldry, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:39, Reply)

Just noticed your sig
Top work sir!
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:42, Reply)

I believe "do as you would be done by" is fundamentally selfish.
And I think that bad shit happens to good people, and good shit happens to bad people, but it's just luck or chance, or whatever. Not Karma, and there is no overall "plan" for anything.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:07, Reply)

Ditto, in fact, Korma

(LongJohnBaldry, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:20, Reply)

Fuck you, I like Korma

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:23, Reply)

*Raises hand*
My name is Cave Duck and I too am a korma loving curry puff.
(Cave Duck, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:24, Reply)

The pair of you should come down to Tayyab's for re-education.

(LongJohnBaldry, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:27, Reply)

'Is it too spicy for you'?
Here, have some dal and yoghurt sauce'

*tries to keep a straight face*
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:30, Reply)

My dad had something called the Bombay Bad boy last time we went out for a curry.
It was hilarious.
( girlinthehole, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:34, Reply)

Isnt that a Pot Noodle?

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:38, Reply)

Is it?
It's also a very hot curry at the local place.
( girlinthehole, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:39, Reply)

Is he a paedophile sex tourist?

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:45, Reply)

Haha!
Quite the opposite. He won't even go to the local pool for a swim on his own in case someone thinks he's a pervert.
( girlinthehole, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:47, Reply)

Yet, he still thought it acceptable
to order a Mumbai street urchin for his pleasure? And a 'bad boy' to boot?

People like him MAKE ME FUCKING SICK.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:49, Reply)

SICK HARD
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:50, Reply)

Sounds good to me, I'd thoroughly enjoy it

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:57, Reply)

*points*
Ha ha!
(Zoz prayed for twink on, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:27, Reply)

I'm here
I'm curry-queer

Get used to it.
(Cave Duck, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:29, Reply)

I just thought I'd throw this one in
The guy that beat me up in a maths lesson and forced me to say I fucked my sister every night accidentally shot himself with an air pistol. It went through his eye and in to his brain and three days later killed him

I still don't think Karma exists but I couldn't help thinking the world was only down a cunt.
( Peej, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:22, Reply)

Fuck off Bert

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:30, Reply)

ARGH!

( Peej, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:42, Reply)

Alwayz n r heatz

(PsychoChomp, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:38, Reply)

he iz wid da angles

( Peej, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:42, Reply)

I've spent my entire life trying to being a good person
and it's only the past two years that good things are happening for me. That's got nothing to do with karma and everything to do with me having my head metaphorically stuck up my arse for the preceeding decade.
( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:32, Reply)

But you've taken responsibility, and got things on a better track for you and your daughter. That's admirable.
How are developments with the new flat?
(Cave Duck, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:40, Reply)

Steady positive progress
until the fucking heating packed in the morning. No engineer until Monday *spits*
( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:43, Reply)

Aw, I'm sorry to hear that.
Those wee halogen/oil portable heater jobbies are on offer at argos if that's any good to you? I know, because I've just had to buy one - electric storage heaters are crap.
(berk, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:46, Reply)

I still haven't put the heating on in my flat.

(PsychoChomp, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:48, Reply)

i have no idea how mine works, the fancy new digital remote control thermostat is a mystery to me
it comes on whenever it feels like. which is not usually when i am at home. i think i am paying to heat the flat from about 11am - 5pm.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:52, Reply)

The amazement and sheer shock
I have experienced in hearing this revelation has quite literally just bowled me over.
( Kroney, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 11:06, Reply)

it's the lowest form of wit, you know

( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 11:16, Reply)

I have made no claim to high wit

( Kroney, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 11:24, Reply)

Good for you
I live in a converted victorian place with 12 foot ceilings and pisspoor insulation. It gets chilly.
(berk, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:57, Reply)

Have you tried looking at it and tutting yet?

(PsychoChomp, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:47, Reply)

Repeatedly for thirty minutes this morning with added swearing.

( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:52, Reply)

There may be no such thing as karma but there is definitely sod's law.

( girlinthehole, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:56, Reply)

Ah, you need to move onto phase 2 - kick it.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:57, Reply)

Phase 2 unfortunately involves
wrapping up like an eskimo until Monday and trying to do my awesome jigsaw (yeah fuck off) with gloves on.
( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 11:00, Reply)

'Awesome' and 'jigsaw' are not normally found in the same sentence
save within the confines of DIY stores.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 11:07, Reply)

I'm not sure how karma can be demonstrably bollocks
As you said, the belief (at least where karma in Hinduism is concerned) is that transgressors will 'get theirs' after they've died. For it to be demonstrably bollocks, wouldn't you have to demonstrate that reincarnation (either as another human being or as any other lifeform/object) does not and can not exist?

To make it clear, I'm not arguing if it's bollocks or not, I'm questioning your use of 'demonstrably'.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:37, Reply)

How is the tatt?
Healing up good?
( girlinthehole, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:40, Reply)

A few thick scabs from where I bled
But it's past the itching stage and into the secondary 'onion skin' stage :)
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:41, Reply)

Prove to me that reincarnation is also not bollocks.
Give me a single shred of solid evidence that it's not a fatuous stream of camel-dung made up by charlatans for the benefit of imbeciles.

GO ON, DO IT NOW.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:47, Reply)

Never said I would or could
Lack of evidence isn't proof of the counterpoint. It's a good indicator that it doesn't happen, but it's not solid proof.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:50, Reply)

I know you are right
in that technically absence of proof is not proof of absence but at some point common sense must prevail.

I cannot prove emphatically that tomorrow I am not going to turn into a 15-foot bright blue gibbon....but let's face it, I'm not, am I?
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:56, Reply)

I agree with you
Hence I'm only questioning the use of 'demonstrably', not the bollocks quotient of karma.
Personally I don't fully put stock in any 'after-life' scenario (heaven, reincarnation, oblivion etc.), but am not intrigued/worried enough to take Pascal's Wager on my deathbed.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 11:01, Reply)

Ironically,
saying that something is "arguably bollocks" won't generate as much debate.

Aren't people odd.
( Kroney, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 11:03, Reply)

It won't, no, because it is arguably bollocks.
"The notion that Labs is a handsome young gent is arguably bollocks"
"The notion that Monty is a short, fat, black lesbian hippy is demonstrably bollocks"
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 11:12, Reply)

The fact that you have posted this
means that next time I see you I will repeatedly kick you in the (arguable or demonstrable, take your pick...) bollocks.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 11:56, Reply)

With enough MDs you might think that you have.
Alternatively, if this were a Disney film, your daughter would now suggest playing a game which involved you pretending to be a 15ft blue gibbon, and you would be larking about like crazy and then suddenly catch sight of yourself in a mirror and have a "maybe I should try seeing the world differently" moment.

Fortunately this isn't a Disney film.
(Cave Duck, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 11:06, Reply)

Hahahah
this is like a more saccharine and slightly less demented 'Gonz fantasy sequence' post.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 11:10, Reply)

I didn't think that people shitting on each others chests was appropriate in this case.

(Cave Duck, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 11:15, Reply)

Oh, but please try...it would amuse me
Regarding common sense; you're right, absence of proof does not prove its absence, but there comes a point at which the pragmatist in you must recognise that the complete, overwhelming absence of proof is pretty damning and that if you believe in that then you might as well believe in your latent ability to transform into a 15-ft blue gibbon.
(LongJohnBaldry, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 11:11, Reply)

I agree with you completely, but common sense and the utter lack of prood still does not merit 'demonstrably'
I'm a bit busy, otherwise I'd 'shop Monty as a massive blue gibbon ;)
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 11:16, Reply)

It doesn't, I agree. Though I think this has become a semantic argument than a philosophical one. 'Demonstrably' was the wrong choice of word, it just sounded better than 'Almost Certainly.'
I do hope you have free time and inclination later on.
(LongJohnBaldry, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 11:17, Reply)

It is more semantic
But in philosophical discussions you have to be very precise with language, just as you do in any kind of debate. It's one way my philosophy degree helps me in my job.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 11:20, Reply)

Well the number of people who claim to be reincarnations...
...of pharaohs, royalty and the famous is rather overwhelming.
And they are all very sane members of society....
(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:51, Reply)

1 in 15 women used to be Cleopatra. FACT.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:54, Reply)

You know
in genealogical terms you're probably not far off. It doesn't take very long in going back generations to reach a point where there are more people necessary to provide your genes today than were actually alive at the time.

You're probably partly Cleopatra, as am I.

However, past lives are only believed in by the type of open-mouthed idiots that also believe in the metaphysical healing powers of rocks.
( Kroney, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:57, Reply)

I can cure society with hasty application of rocks to peoples faces, does that count?

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 11:00, Reply)

I have an Aunt who claims to be a reincarnation...
...of one of Cleopatra's hand-maidens.
Oddly enough the following facts are true:
- She is twice divorced and is a total fag-hag.
- She has lots of cats.
- She raised three dysfunctional kids; the oldest ODd in 2002, her daughter is an aging 'exotic dancer' and the most functioning one is a suicidal nut job
- Was an 'expert' in power-crystals, kabbalah and astrology until they went 'out of fashion.
- Is now an 'expert' in gemetria and reiki.
Just like any religious zealout she has a tenuous grasp on reality and has devoted her life to mumbo jumbo and genuinely believes she has been helped by such faddish flights of fancy.
Sad innit?
(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 11:03, Reply)

Hugely so.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 11:05, Reply)

Rogerthestarfish is your aunt?
Shiiiit.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 11:07, Reply)

Ha! Very good
But otherwise, yes, tragically risible.
(LongJohnBaldry, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 11:08, Reply)

Right on Monty
"Well did you hear, there’s a natural order.
Those most deserving will end up with the most.
That the cream cannot help but always rise up to the top,
Well I say: Shit floats.
If you thought things had changed,
Friend you’d better think again,
Bluntly put in the fewest of words,
Cunts are still running the world,"
(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:48, Reply)

SClub7?

( Kroney, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 10:59, Reply)

That was actually by The Cheeky Girls...
...when they tried to 'get serious'. Obviously they did not write the lyrics; but they did their own choreography and designed the g-strings worn in the accompanying video.
(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 11:09, Reply)

Was it written by Lembit Opik?

(Cave Duck, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 11:10, Reply)

He is the most multi-talented person ever.
trufax.
(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 11:13, Reply)

They've both got a face like a bag of spanners
But sadly, I still would. I think it's the twin factor, alone I wouldn't bother.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 11:11, Reply)

Never mind all this twaddle...
Monty - how was your Hendrix night?
(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 11:15, Reply)

I believe in the type of karma that happens while you're alive.

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 11:16, Reply)

The cause and effect karma?
The 'You smile at someone there is a strong chance they will smile back' type?
(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 11:18, Reply)

Funny, I've always found it's more like
"You smile at someone and there is a strong chance they'll move to a seat further down the carriage."
(LongJohnBaldry, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 11:19, Reply)

Maybe try it without the obvious erection and lip-licking?

(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 11:27, Reply)

Bad things happen to everyone who does bad things to me

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 11:20, Reply)

I'm fucked, aren't I?

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 11:23, Reply)

God no. Those who skit me with aplomb get rewarded.

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Fri 19 Nov 2010, 11:29, Reply)