I don't read the Mail.
So you agree that, as a group, people who attend demos are wankers intent on violence, right?
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Mon 9 May 2011, 16:06, 1 reply)

The Standard used to be the Mail and I'm not convinced it's had much of a change in editorial direction despite Ledbedev's takeover
Okay, let's pick two groups of protesters - the EDL and the students. I'm fairly happy with the assumption that those attending an EDL demo are definitely wankers intent on violence. You claim that amongst the student protesters were some wankers intent on violence. Let's assume the two groups of wankers are of roughly equal size.

So how come you only ever see the police baton-charging students or hippies, and not the EDL protesters? Is it perhaps because they might hit back?
( emvee cruor deo cruoris, Mon 9 May 2011, 19:38, closed)

Could it be because the Metropolitan Police are notoriously heavy-handed,
and the West Yorkshire police (who dealt with the EDL rally in Nürnberg, sorry Bradford) were trying to keep the violence to a minimum by restricting both the blackshirts and their opponents to one street each, keeping them well apart?

Considering the amount of participants on both sides and the heavy police presence, a bit of scuffling and a dozen arrests was small potatoes compared to the warfare that could have occurred had the situation not been kept under control.
( The Mock TurtIe ™ --- Thinks you are a cunt, on, Mon 9 May 2011, 22:56, closed)

I don't recall seeing the Met giving any muslim or EDL protesters a hard time in London either
It's weird, it's almost as if they're stand-offish when there is the potential for real violence, yet when there's little chance of resistance (like when people are screaming "This is a peaceful protest!" while, er, sitting in tents) they move in with horses, dogs and batons.
( emvee cruor deo cruoris, Tue 10 May 2011, 9:04, closed)

Oh! Oh!
We're dividing the protesters into groups now, are we?

Into a group of "wankers intent on violence" and those who aren't?

I see.

But ALL the police are bastards, right?

I think I can see how this works, now.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Tue 10 May 2011, 7:20, closed)

Well just to compare how the police react when presented with a "hard" or a "soft" target
The farmers, truck drivers, the BNP, EDL protesters and footy hooligans get the kid gloves treatment, while hippies, students and women get the boot. One might speculate it's because the police ranks share a certain amount of overlap with the farmers, truck drivers, the BNP, the EDL and the footy thugs. They won't get into a ruck with the islams either, probably because word has come down from on high that it would Look Bad. Yet they have no compunction about cracking a few hippy heads, or riding their horses into a line of children.
( emvee cruor deo cruoris, Tue 10 May 2011, 8:58, closed)

And in answer to your hair splitting:
Of course protesters are a disparate bunch. They're not, for example, a national institution with its own uniforms, ranks, command structures and tactics to use on the day. Protesters are ordinary citizens, drawn from whichever demographic feels aggrieved on that particular occasion. The police are, by comparison, a highly-trained and supposedly disciplined practically-paramilitary force. And they're supposed to be held to a standard. Which part of that don't you get?
( emvee cruor deo cruoris, Tue 10 May 2011, 9:15, closed)

No no. We're talking generalisations here.
If we're going to generalise about members of the police force, by the same token we should be able to generalise about people who protest/go on demos.

Otherwise it looks suspiciously like a double standard employed through the motivation of bias in order to demonise the perceived enemy, as opposed to objective analysis.

And yes, I am aware that this is B3ta.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Tue 10 May 2011, 9:26, closed)

Okay, let's say all protesters are exactly the same
Yet the police treat some of them differently to others, depending on circumstance or whim

Police are still cunts in the final analysis
( emvee cruor deo cruoris, Tue 10 May 2011, 16:11, closed)

And thus, likewise, regardless of how they're treated by the police
Protesters are cunts as well.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Tue 10 May 2011, 16:14, closed)

Save it for the protesters qotw

( emvee cruor deo cruoris, Tue 10 May 2011, 17:08, closed)

Hahahaha

( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 11 May 2011, 9:37, closed)