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Jeccy writes, "I've seen people having four-somes, fights involving spastics and genuine retarded people doing karaoke, all thanks to the invention of the common pub."

What's happened in your local then?

(, Thu 5 Feb 2009, 20:55)
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Presumably because
If you join the army, you are trained to use your weapon and you are trained to follow orders in a disciplined way. You are not given a gun and sent home to practice are you?

Quoting the Manic Street Preachers should be subject to something akin to Godwins Law.

And with reference to your final point, do you really think that things in the UK will get to the stage where the army starts stealing food from the public at gunpoint?

If so, can I suggest you just head over to the daily mail forums.
(, Mon 9 Feb 2009, 16:42, 1 reply)
It is interesting that in Switzerland:
I believe that all men in a certain age group are in the military and are required to keep their weapons at home. I don’t know if they have any more crime than the UK or a higher murder rate.

I am NOT a believer in people carrying weapons around (even though you can do it in my state (Vermont) without any license or restrictions other than guns being banned in schools and other government buildings), there is no need for it. I do wonder however if a lot of the crazy things that some people do with guns has more to do with the culture of the country they live in and socialization. I would imagine that every Swiss male with a military weapon at home has been fully trained in its use and more importantly, what it actually means to use a weapon versus the yahoo people who go crazy with guns after watching old Rambo movies.
(, Tue 10 Feb 2009, 13:00, closed)
The point there being
that everyone with a gun is trained soldier who is legally obliged to undertake a certain amount of training each month. They aren't just any Tom, Dick and Harry who wants to own a gun. (edit - sorry this pretty much mirrors the last paragraph of your comment, I didn't read it properly)

They do have a lower crime rate, but I don't think you can just attribute that to the number of guns, Switzerland is a very wealthy country with high education levels, which I'm sure plays a fairly strong role.

Also, on an unrelated note, they are very behind everything being Swiss being better, so if a shop sells Swiss tomatoes at a higher price then imported tomatoes, many people will buy the Swiss ones, just because they are Swiss.
(, Tue 10 Feb 2009, 13:40, closed)

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