I do that
I've told a child to ask its obviously dole-scum mother how much in benefits she gets a week.

By dole-scum I mean those who make a living off the benefit system, not use it to live.
( Methylene Blue - electrohead, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:26, archived)

. . .

( Damion International - now taking orders., Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:27, archived)

merry xmas dole scum mum

( Tyronne Get To Falkirk, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:27, archived)

*drops 20,000 spoons noisily behind you*

( Enigmatic ™                 Voice No More                  ©, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:27, archived)

Hmm?

( Methylene Blue - electrohead, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:27, archived)

Pfft
Not much point in that
(bogus official shove it up your cunt, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:28, archived)

ooof

( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:30, archived)

Just joining in ;)

(bogus official shove it up your cunt, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:31, archived)

Pffft

( trev Is not interested in your fripperies, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:28, archived)

Well...
YOU can wash those again, not me!
( Maffers I flow kinda strange like Spina Bifida footprints, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:28, archived)

Yeah!
Fuck the working classes!

That'll show 'em.
( TFD is sporting this season's finest necropants, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:29, archived)

nuh uh
There's a difference between the people, and a very obvious one in that. When the kids have nappies nearly to the floor, as well as other signs I care not to go into in case somebody has one of them and gets offended.
( Methylene Blue - electrohead, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:31, archived)

and do not even get me started on their extra tenner bonus
a tenner ! it should be a billion million pounds.
( Tyronne Get To Falkirk, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:31, archived)

Oh shut the fuck up.
You scrounge. You have no fucking idea what it's like to be truly poor - and don't give me the bollocks you normally come out with.

It's fuckwits like you that I wanted to kick the shit out of when I was that dole-scum mum. Who the fuck are you to judge whether people are using the benefit system to make a living or not?
( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:30, archived)

I thought this when I saw it
But I couldn't manage trolling two posters at the same time, so if it's ok I'll let you flay this one?
( Barry Chuckle III - the troll with a soul., Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:31, archived)

She'll not get involved in this argument
because she knows I'm right.
( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:32, archived)

This.

( TFD is sporting this season's finest necropants, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:33, archived)

it's christmas
let us be merry and overlook it this once
( Enigmatic ™                 Voice No More                  ©, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:34, archived)

But why?
Where's the fun in that?

/Rose
( Tyronne Get To Falkirk, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 21:02, archived)

Do you even know what I meant by dole-scum
There are two types of people on benefits. Dole-scum and the others. If you could take a second rather than immediately see red then you'd understand what I was on about!
( Methylene Blue - electrohead, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:32, archived)

can I offer you a shovel, madam?

( Enigmatic ™                 Voice No More                  ©, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:35, archived)

No
I'm not digging into any hole. I've referred to dole scum before and defined it. Just because somebody sees red because 'OMG I WAS ON BENEFITS ONCE' then it's their fault.
( Methylene Blue - electrohead, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:36, archived)

Don't you get £100/month on top of stuff for taxes?

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:36, archived)

no
taxis, she gets a danny de vito bonus.
( Tyronne Get To Falkirk, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:38, archived)

Something like that
But when you consider I work 8 hours a week due to my company being gay and reducing hours, and support a student, then you can understand it
( Methylene Blue - electrohead, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:38, archived)

Not really.
Find another job. Get your boyfriend to get up off his arse and get a job.
( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:40, archived)

My boyfriend has a job
And a car. And a loan to pay back. And a phone to pay for.

And I can't get another job because I'm not on rota and my shifts will increase again in '08. I'm not fucking around another company just because one fucks me around. I'd like to keep job opportunities open.
( Methylene Blue - electrohead, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:48, archived)

So if your boyfriend has all of these things...
why are you supporting him?

Actually, that's a good point...doesn't he give you money so you can get drunk? So who are you supporting exactly?
( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:52, archived)

a phone is not a necessity
its a luxury, so is a car.

Truth be told the way you keep moaning, if I had a company and you came for a interview , you would get a `thanks but no thanks,we shall keep your cv on file for 6 months`
( Tyronne Get To Falkirk, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:53, archived)

re: necessity
see also internet connection
( Barry Chuckle III - the troll with a soul., Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:54, archived)

that too.

( Tyronne Get To Falkirk, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:56, archived)

8 hours a week is very open.
/Rose
( Tyronne Get To Falkirk, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:59, archived)

and university paid for.

( spangolin - the odds are good but the goods are odd, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:39, archived)

now now
I get my university fees paid for, and a generous student loan - but recieve no funding from parents so work all week for it. So we're not all bad.

Also, I'll be giving something back to the country when I qualify in July (teacher). So I like to think that'll maybe cancel out the mebeingagypponess going on.
( Barry Chuckle III - the troll with a soul., Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:46, archived)

so are you being paid through by the school/uni you are going to work for then?
because that's a different thing, really :)
( spangolin - the odds are good but the goods are odd, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:48, archived)

Nope
It's being paid for by the state, I'm afraid.
( Barry Chuckle III - the troll with a soul., Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:49, archived)

*le gasp*
;)

I wasn't mentioning it as a bad thing on it's own, but to condemn others for living off benefits while doing it yourself is a bit hypocritical.
( spangolin - the odds are good but the goods are odd, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:51, archived)

Aah
Didn't make that connection.

Huzzahs all round :)
( Barry Chuckle III - the troll with a soul., Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:53, archived)

Fuck no
I pay for my fees. I get a student loan that covers it but I have to pay every penny back!
( Methylene Blue - electrohead, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:51, archived)

oh ok
I apologise - I thought you said before that you wouldn't have to pay it back.
( spangolin - the odds are good but the goods are odd, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:53, archived)

like practically every other fucker.

( Tyronne Get To Falkirk, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:54, archived)

She's different.
She's SPECIAL.
( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:55, archived)

She is.
Very.

/Rose
( Tyronne Get To Falkirk, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:58, archived)

Oh I understood alright.
It was a blatant 'I'm going to jump into this thread to gain approval even though I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about and couldn't find my arse with both hands and a fucking map, and when people call me on my lack of knowledge and obvious bullshit I'll whine and call them a bully' post.

You make a living off benefits. You take every penny you can get. Yet you have the nerve to ask a CHILD about it's 'dole-scum' mother, just because you mistakenly assume you are in some way superior because you are a student. As I said before, who are you to judge whether someone is abusing the benefit system? I didn't know that they made people wear little badges now. Or did you just listen to her acent, look at her clothing and judge her from there?

Silly little mare.
( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:38, archived)

Rose loves you

( Tyronne Get To Falkirk, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:40, archived)

I'm on FIRE tonight.

( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:42, archived)

How about knowing who the person is
I'm calling nobody a bully. I'm not whining. Just because I say something that's 'OMG UNFAIR' it doesn't mean that I don't know what I'm talking about. I've known people abuse the system. Yes, I take every penny I get, but so fuck? Most of it's loans, which I'm getting back, and the rest wages that I'm getting SEVERELY underpaid. Yes, I get disability benefits, so fuck? I don't say 'oh why should I work when I can get this money free?'

I never said you did either. You're quick to judge and defend, aren't you? Because you claimed benefits? Or because you felt guilty taking them? At least I end up paying SOME tax, as opposed to most students who get grants galore. I don't.
( Methylene Blue - electrohead, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:42, archived)

do most students get grants galore?

( 100% kitten better than ever, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:43, archived)

not in my experience.
most people have to take out a loan, and pay it back afterwards. Grants are extremely hard to come by now.
( spangolin - the odds are good but the goods are odd, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:46, archived)

I've seen a lot of them do it
Bursaries especially. You get a maintenance grant if you don't earn x amount. And a lot of students spend their money and get an Access To Learning Fund grant because booze has washed their cash away.
( Methylene Blue - electrohead, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:47, archived)

Another wonderful sleeping generalisation!
You're doing fantastically tonight!
( Barry Chuckle III - the troll with a soul., Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:48, archived)

Pssst..... sWeeping..... it's sWeeping generation.
90Nz0: Helping people Do. Words.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:51, archived)

haha
oh fucking hell

you just schooled me :
( Barry Chuckle III - the troll with a soul., Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:51, archived)

=)

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:56, archived)

Oh shit, I clicked "Post this message" and realised I said 'generations' instead of 'gernalisations'.
Hoo, hum.... spoons and what-not.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:52, archived)

what planet do you really come from ?

( Tyronne Get To Falkirk, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:48, archived)

I doubt that
I went in the last year that you still got the means tested grant and when you didn't pay fees and got an enormous £90 a term or something. that's hardly grants galore and that was when the situation was much more generous.
( 100% kitten better than ever, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:54, archived)

You're really really full of shite.
I'm amazed that your housemate thought you were a cunt. No really.
( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:54, archived)

Yes

( Methylene Blue - electrohead, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:46, archived)

whisky galore

( Tyronne Get To Falkirk, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:46, archived)

no they do not..
The biggest grant anyone at my university gets is £200. And there are five of them.

*has seen the figures, can't remember why now*
( Barry Chuckle III - the troll with a soul., Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:47, archived)

Bollocks do we.
Infact the only person I know who gets a grant lied to the LEA because his parents split up and his mum earns nothing (ignoring the fact that his stepdad and dad both have shitloads of cash).

He sits on his arse and gets chucked out of uni for not going then makes up a dead relative or emotional problem to get let back in to keep up the above farce. I wouldn't mind so much but the cunt seems to have such a shit time doing so.
( Slippery Mick ‏, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:53, archived)

what are your feelings on the black issue?
and the jews of course
( mongychops, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:44, archived)

Because you often come out with unsubstantiated bollocks
and I love watching your pixels squirm when you realise that everyone notices.

You're probably a nice girl, with no idea how the real world works. But you are also full of utter shit. Someone once said 'tis better to be silent and thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt'
( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:48, archived)

I know who said this
YOUR MUM.
( Tyronne Get To Falkirk, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:50, archived)

that person sounds like a bit of a bellend
:D
( Barry Chuckle III - the troll with a soul., Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:50, archived)

He was an old person from the olden days.
f
( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:53, archived)

And I'm sure you're a lovely woman, you're nice in person
But don't throw all this 'I'm a mum so I know everything' shit at me, PLEASE.

At this point, I'm leaving this thread. I can't be bothered with it as people are obviously wearing rose tinted glasses.
( Methylene Blue - electrohead, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:55, archived)

You'd last 5 minutes in the real world
before someone laid you out with one punch.

I don't know everything because I am a mum. I do know more than you because I have lived a wee while longer, and didn't go around thinking I was better than everyone else because the government paid for my education.
( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Wed 26 Dec 2007, 21:00, archived)

The government doesn't pay for my education?
And I don't think I am better than anybody else. There's only one type of person I can't stand.
( Methylene Blue - electrohead, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 21:12, archived)

I love you.

( Damion International - now taking orders., Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:43, archived)

I agree
I'm ambivalent about benefits (could claim them for some things, but I don't because I don't need to [and I don't pay anything for expensive medications and/or mental health professionals either]).

I believe people shouldn't spend money on certain things/might have fucked up priorities, but in the end people are either entitled to benefits or they are not and how they spend the money is ultimately up to them.

The worst thing about benefit systems in general seems to be the way that (not necessarily by design) some people can earn more by not working than working (I'd rather work than not work [and I've done some shitty jobs], but I'd probably feel differently if I had massive overheads [I don't] and the lower income from work v benefits would result in serious hardship).

/long post
( custard, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:45, archived)

You're right about earning more money not working
I had to drag myself out of that hole. If I worked, my rent would be literally all of my wages. I didn't know the reason I didn't pay rent in the hostel was housing benefit. When I found out, I got into work, then moved out and paid full rent out of my own pocket.
( Methylene Blue - electrohead, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:50, archived)

what a stupid thing to add at the end
you've used a sweeping statement after judging sombody yourself on apperance and attitude, if you dont like poor people dont wimp out about it
( mongychops, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:30, archived)

I don't mind people who use benefits
But I don't like the people who won't do a job because they think it's beneath them. Or won't work at all because they can't be arsed. That's dole-scum.

Obviously this involves people claiming benefits. My auntie is one. She claimed DLA for things my cousins never had. She hasn't worked a day in her life.
( Methylene Blue - electrohead, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:34, archived)

*something about shoes and walking a mile in them*

( Fluzzy namby-pamby pudding and pie, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:35, archived)

'something about judging books and covers'

( mongychops, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:37, archived)

ARE DOLE SCUMMERS STEALING SHOES NOW?

( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:39, archived)

All of them
in the world, ever.
( Fluzzy namby-pamby pudding and pie, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:42, archived)

HOW DARE THEY HAVE SHOES
WHEN SOMETIMES I HAVE TO PAY FOR A TAXI
( mongychops, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:42, archived)

YES..... from THE SYSTEM.....
To be fair, fair game to them, when I was sick about 5 years ago, I couldn't get a penny out of them, all lost-forms and what-not. Eventualy, I got to the route of the problem, it was that I didn't have enough "Points", by whatever the fuck that means. Lord knows how I was supposed to have gotten them, it bieng a year out of school, and needing two years.

However, I realise that is total bullshit, surely if you're a sicko or something, no matter what you've put in to the country, they sort you out, init?

End result: Tons of phonecalls/visits/forms etc, but fuck all help.

I hate the sound of the "This country's gone to the pits" people, but they ain't wrong, in quite a few departments.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:48, archived)

Then whether the people who don't have jobs are in receipt of benefits or not is immaterial, surely
There are therefore two sorts of people. People you don't like and the others.
( in vino veritas, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:36, archived)

It's their attitude more than what taxes are paying that pisses me off
People who need the money because they can't find a job - fine.

People who WON'T work, and continually pop out kids just to get a house and benefits (Go on Wicca, say they don't exist) piss me off to no end.
( Methylene Blue - electrohead, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:44, archived)

You forgot
Whilst simultaneously complaining about "they" who take "our" jobs.
( Slippery Mick ‏, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:41, archived)

what you're saying is
you're a snob?
( 100% kitten better than ever, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:43, archived)

I doubt these ones were dole scum.
Judging by the fact they were CONSTANTLY fucking around with their new found digital slr camera.

Not that they had a fucking clue how to use one mind.
( Slippery Mick ‏, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 20:31, archived)