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# this?
www2.b3ta.com/host/creative/42654/1185452504/archswing.jpg
(I helped save b3ta! PedroHin Come along & ride on a Flantastic Voyage, Tue 18 May 2010, 13:26, archived)
# No, but thanks for the thought...
Found 'em in the end.
(I helped save b3ta! barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!, Tue 18 May 2010, 13:29, archived)