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I submit that real engineers feel the same way about Java developers as Java developers feel about SEOs and Social Network non-entities.

Java, Javascript, HTML & associated technologies are all dumbed-down abstractions created by real engineers for use by idiots, so that any pants-on-head A level Maths drop-out can go ahead and create pretty websites with templated, unindividual, un-inspiring, high-level functionality. The internet should be banned.
(, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 16:56, archived)
# mind if i say...
that that's a pompous load of twaddle? ta.
(, Tue 22 Jun 2010, 1:02, archived)
# You may...
....but, of course, you would not be correct.
(, Tue 22 Jun 2010, 13:24, archived)