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# On your double-starred point
it's the converse of the age-old argument on whether when a tree falls in the woods with no one around to hear it, if it makes a sound.

Sound is created in space. It just doesn't travel very far.
(I helped save b3ta! Syncubus Yarr! Ye'll be walking Planck's Constant! [GMT-5], Tue 28 Dec 2004, 12:42, archived)
# If a tree falls in a forest
and no-one is there to hear it. Does anyone really care?

Apart from the squirrels who are unexpectedly homeless, oviously.
(I helped save b3ta! trev Is not interested in your fripperies, Tue 28 Dec 2004, 12:44, archived)
# I care!
Trees am lovely.

(I helped save b3ta! Syncubus Yarr! Ye'll be walking Planck's Constant! [GMT-5], Tue 28 Dec 2004, 12:46, archived)
# I love trees
best of all the climbable flora.
(I helped save b3ta! friendlyfire, Tue 28 Dec 2004, 13:01, archived)
# I myself
have given a lot of thought to this particular problem, and my conclusions are as follows:

Voom! pshhwooarrr! ka-ka-ka-ka... BOOM!
(Aphasian, Tue 28 Dec 2004, 12:45, archived)